Very intrigued how Morgan and Canales handle the offseason

[csx]

People really need to understand what an ERFA is. Coker will get a contract in line with other recent better ERFA wide receivers 

Edited 12 hours ago by csx

[Panthero]

Seeing the diversity of answers makes me realize that they are questions worth asking. Some of yall answer like you are at the card table. Lol. I have no idea what they should do or will do, as several of the moves arent made in a vacuum. Should be a fun off-season. 

[Panthero]

9 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Here is what I think. 

1.  Not sure about the contract with Ickey, but I would let him walk if he wants big money, sign him to a back load contract to play here in the future--as a guard.  I am guessing that knee would be better at G than LT.  Draft a LT and re-sign Nijman and BC if possible.  

2.  I love Coker, but the injury history is not a deterrant.  I think we need a #2--Coker is an ideal #3 imo.  He can play #2 for 2026, but whatever you do, you sign him NOW.  He should not demand elite money--3 TDs for 395 yards is not negotiation gold.  Lock him up now on a contract that is aligned with that level of production.

3.  XL--this is an unpopular opinion, but we knew XL was developmental when we drafted him.   Maybe play him at the #3.  Financlally, you keep him on the roster and you hope to unlock his potential in year 3.  I am upset with him, but he has talent.  Can he put it together?  Unlikely, but we cant improve every position that we need to upgrade.

4.  the OL is interesting.  First, our guards are contractually locked in until 2027; moving either is not worth the cost.  Extend them if anything.  I do not see Ickey coming back as an OT--but maybe a G.  We must draft a LT and C or RT.  Re-sign Nijman and BC.  We must also bring in or draft a starting Center.  I am concerned that they re-sign Corbett late in free agency, when his price drops.  I think we will draft one.  (In other words, sign your depth--BC, Nijman, and maybe even Corbett and Cuhran.  Draft a center and OT.

5.  Sign a FA (Chenal) and add ILB depth later in draft.  Re-sign Rozeboom (reasonable contract--2-3m)

6.  This is why I do not believe in giving RBs second contracts--they rarely play up to them.  Nonetheless, Chuba is a leader, we have Entienne, and Brooks is going to give it another try.  Dowdle is gone.

 

What is not mentioned is the need for an edge--imo, we have to big edges that can hold the edge (Jones II, Scourton)  Princely and a free agent pass rushing specialist (Reddick?) should make edge better.

 

 

Great point on Edge. Should have clocked that. 

[Khyber53]

13 hours ago, Panthero said:

1. What do you do with Icky? Likely a scratch for next season and due a massive contract (if healthy)

2. Coker has the talent for 2nd WR, but do you pay a guy who gets hurt that premium? I think hes your number 3 simply due to risk. Will the Panthers seek another vet or go surprisingly high in the draft?

3. Do you give X more feature time? Or cut bait now?

4. Planning the long term/short term on OL

5. How do you address LB?

6. Do you bank of Chuba bouncing back? 

These moves will determine if Dan's can maintain a consistent playoff level team. 

1. Sadly, it's just too early to tell with Icky. And the draft will have come and gone before we have anything, FA, too probably. Njiman was good, but there's dollars to be invested there as well. This is really our biggest puzzle to figure out. And Moton on the other flank is getting long in the tooth, too. 

2. Coker: Pay the man WR2 money. 

3. Most WRs take three years before you really know what you've got. We'll know for sure by the end of this one and he's still on a relatively inexpensive rookie contract. Now if someone comes calling for a good, good trade...

4. This is the make or break for good teams vs bad teams. And depth development is essential. We've had a bit of that but there isn't a spot on our line that doesn't have worries except for maybe on guard. 

5. I think you draft the best ILB, the smartest one in the first round and don't look back. People lost their poo here on this board when we "wasted" a pick on Luke Kuechly. 

6. Yeah, I think Chuba is a workhorse. But we need to be more decisive in his use. Still not sure Rico doesn't come back next season, too. He'll get to see the marketplace first, though, and we'll offer similar numbers to him.

 

[NAS]

14 hours ago, Panthero said:

1. What do you do with Icky? Likely a scratch for next season and due a massive contract (if healthy)

2. Coker has the talent for 2nd WR, but do you pay a guy who gets hurt that premium? I think hes your number 3 simply due to risk. Will the Panthers seek another vet or go surprisingly high in the draft?

3. Do you give X more feature time? Or cut bait now?

4. Planning the long term/short term on OL

5. How do you address LB?

6. Do you bank of Chuba bouncing back? 

These moves will determine if Dan's can maintain a consistent playoff level team. 

1. Have to draft Ickey's replacement in the 1st or 2nd round, high chance he will never be the same and he wasn't dominant to begin with.  

2. Yes - pay him before he gets more expensive.  Right now, he can be had reasonably cheap given that he still needs to prove he can stay healthy and have a full season of WR2 production.

3. I think you keep him on the roster and see if he is willing to work and improve.  If he doesn't you simply don't pick up his 5th year option after this year. 

4. See #1 

5. Draft best available in either 1st or 2nd round.  

6. I think RB room is set, hopefully Brooks shows promise and takes over half the carries.  maybe draft another one in the late rounds 4-5 for depth.

[MHS831]

13 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Way too many of y'allare panicking about Icky. He holds no cards right now. His agent knows it. He's under contract next year with the 5th year option and is in no place to demand a huge deal rehabbing from an injury with a very spotty recovery history for NFL players. Any deal that would be inked right now would be far off his healthy market value. What's he gonna a do? Hold out and forego $17M after suffering a potential career altering or even ending injury?

There's no pressing need right now to do anything long-term with either Icky or Coker. Chill.

The Panthers hold all the cards currently with both these situations.

I think signing Coker long term now (since you are not signing Ickey) makes sense, based on his production numbers.  If he balls out next year, you could be looking in the $15m range for a player you could have much cheaper.  If you wait until you have to make decisions about a healthy Ickey and then QB, you could lose Coker.  (I have not looked at contract details etc. so my math could be off--but where I sit now, it seems to me this is obvious:  Coker seems to have a future--solid hands, can get open, etc. His production (less that 400 yards) is probably far less than he will have next year etc.)

[Dingo_ate_Babies]

A lot is going to depend on how much cap space we can muster up. Right now, we don’t have as much as we thought. We’re going to have to restructure, extend, and/or cut a number of guys. We should use that money to go after ILBs and an OLB. We can take care of the rest of our needs via draft. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

1. Have to draft Ickey's replacement in the 1st or 2nd round, high chance he will never be the same and he wasn't dominant to begin with.  

5. Draft best available in either 1st or 2nd round.  

So you want to shoehorn yourself into drafting OT and LB in the 1st and 2nd? Great way to end up reaching out of desperation. 

[45catfan]

See how the board falls because we still need help just about everywhere.  The only positions we don't take on day one and two are: QB, RB and TE (STs, obviously). That's it folks.  Every other position on the roster could use an upgrade early in the draft.  WR-(s), IOL, OT, DT, DE, OLB, ILB, CB and safety.  We shouldn't have to reach for anything.