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Jeremy Fowler: Panthers going after Odafe Oweh, Devin Lloyd, Tremaine Edmunds, Kenny Pickett

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17 minutes ago, frankw said:

https://blackandteal.com/nfl-analyst-reveals-why-jaguars-won-t-lose-sleep-if-devin-lloyd-leaves-bill-barnwell

"He racked up five picks, including that pick-six of Patrick Mahomes that fueled a famous Jags victory. The effort concerns disappeared," Barnwell wrote. "Lloyd managed 1.5 sacks and 10 knockdowns as a blitzer. He wasn't a great run defender, as Lloyd took longer to make tackles on run plays (5.1 seconds) than any regular off-ball linebacker in the league and made both run tackles and stuffs at below-average rates. But Lloyd was impactful enough against the pass to earn a deserved trip to the Pro Bowl."

I mean, yeah, he wasn't perfect in run defense. 

The Jags still wanted to re-sign him, and they still can't afford him. The Devil is always in the details, and even Barnwell isn't exactly slamming Lloyd and gives him his praise. Someone has to give the other side of the equation.

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Let's not forget the high grades .

"'Lloyd earned PFF grades above 80.0 in coverage, against the run, and as a pass-rusher," wrote McGuinness.'

As mentioned, Lloyd did a bit of everything for the Jacksonville defense. He totaled 25 pressures as a blitzer and ranked 11th among linebackers in run defense grade"

https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/jaguars/2026/01/08/jaguars-devin-lloyd-antonio-johnson-named-pff-all-pro-teams/88080158007/

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I mean, yeah, he wasn't perfect in run defense. 

The Jags still wanted to re-sign him, and they still can't afford him. The Devil is always in the details, and even Barnwell isn't exactly slamming Lloyd and gives him his praise. Someone has to give the other side of the equation.

Nobody is asking for perfect. But 20 million a season for an ILB who was the slowest run tackler amongst all ILB's is not exactly a slam dunk either.

For me the issue is overpaying FA's to bandaid key units. It's not a sustainable path. The only way this franchise is going to emerge as a consistent contender again is nailing the draft.

Anyone here on the huddle or across social media can sign the best FA's.

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I wonder if any other fan base obsesses over backup QB like this one. That said, I struggle to see the point in basically anybody signing Kenny Pickett. He’s not a capable backup, he’s not going to develop, and he’s not a veteran mentor. In all honesty what is the point. 

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

https://blackandteal.com/nfl-analyst-reveals-why-jaguars-won-t-lose-sleep-if-devin-lloyd-leaves-bill-barnwell

"He racked up five picks, including that pick-six of Patrick Mahomes that fueled a famous Jags victory. The effort concerns disappeared," Barnwell wrote. "Lloyd managed 1.5 sacks and 10 knockdowns as a blitzer. He wasn't a great run defender, as Lloyd took longer to make tackles on run plays (5.1 seconds) than any regular off-ball linebacker in the league and made both run tackles and stuffs at below-average rates. But Lloyd was impactful enough against the pass to earn a deserved trip to the Pro Bowl."

The effort concerns disappeared... in a contract year. Oh we mayne, if that ain't a massive red flag.

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51 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

I wonder if any other fan base obsesses over backup QB like this one. That said, I struggle to see the point in basically anybody signing Kenny Pickett. He’s not a capable backup, he’s not going to develop, and he’s not a veteran mentor. In all honesty what is the point. 

Are you new to football fandom? Every fanbase whose starter sucks obsesses over the backup QB. That's where you're looking for hope.

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Odd we bring in competition for the backup, instead of an open competition considering outside of the Carolina ecosystem, most people would hardly call Bryce a franchise QB.  You don't bring in competition for a franchise QBs. You do bring in competition for QBs that are not tier 1 guys.  We have seem this play out before in 2003 and, by golly, the competition didn't even have to wait a full game to take over.

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Odd we bring in competition for the backup, instead of an open competition considering outside of the Carolina ecosystem, most people would hardly call Bryce a franchise QB.  You don't bring in competition for a franchise QBs. You do bring in competition for QBs that are not tier 1 guys.  We have seem this play out before in 2003 and, by golly, the competition didn't even have to wait a full game to take over.

I don't think I've ever seen a player be so coddled and catered to by a team in the NFL while pretty clearly holding the team back. We just can't get over that massive sunk cost of that trade.

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