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TheSpecialJuan

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we extend Bryce on a franchise QB contract I'll check put as a Panthers fan until the nightmare is over. I'll just go back to being a general football fan and tuning into the most interesting games of the day. Hell, I've been halfway there for years. For years I've been alf ass watching the Panthers on one screen while watching other games on other screens.

Goodbye GIF

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5 hours ago, Swaggasaurus said:

I had been on that Freeling/Proctor train as well. These mammoth athletic tackles don’t grow on trees. Once you were out of say…the top 10 or so picks. The sum of what either of these guys could be is so much greater than a safety or some slot who never had a 1,000 yd season. I’m sure the Jets and Browns went with the right guys lol, but glad our FO could see the ceilings.

I will be shocked if proctor makes it as a tackle. He is way too slow moving laterally and seems to have zilcho burst when the ball is snapped.

Guy can easily be a dominant IOL though 

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IF an extension comes, this might be one of the times where analytics will be to blame. I'm sure the FO will pick and choose a couple of stats that support Bryce, and then IF they could extend him around 33 mil? 

That surely sounds like a math decision where they're more concerned with the cap and a couple hand-picked stats than the eyeball test and wins. When our staff and FO have so many ties to Tampa and Seattle....who have QBs in that same range, Bryce in the low to mid 30s is probably their goal. 

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2 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

I'm sure we also wouldn't want to let him reach free agency from a goodwill stand point. But this could be the ultimate "go test your market" situation. Hey, you want more? Go see what you can get. 

nah if it doesnt work out this year then he is done here which is why the 5th ext was always stupid

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I sort of get the 5th year. 
Apparently today, keeping it to a one year contract is not giving them respect and now they aren’t playing for a deal from you at that point they are playing for their FA contract. And they will want to stick it to you if they blow up. Hell at that point you are just a foil to get their price up. And they want to teach you a lesson for not believing in them. 
Instead of the goodwill that 5th year shows - where maybe you might get them at a mid contract like 33mil, he’ll no it is is 60 million now.  And your 26 million 5th year looks like a bargain. 
 

I don’t know if I have it explained right but it is something like that

Where you can split the the 26.5 over two years cap wise if you want out. And the NFL throws numbers like this around like it it spillage. Teams have 100 million cap hits they absorb.  
They just have too much money to allow it to constrain their reach; it is just a number to them - all of them the teams, the players, the league itself 

 

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14 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Stroud has been on a downward trend ever since his rookie year.

His Rookie year was a historical, so naturally he wasnt gonna repeat it especially not with the issues texans had on offense but that is somehow considered regeression in a naysayers eyes. On the flip side bryce has improved based off being the absolute worst his rookie year, so anything better than that is considered improvement. Great logic by those folks.

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23 hours ago, jfra78 said:

I mean Stroud had a down year, but it was still better than Bryces best year

 

20 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Stroud has been on a downward trend ever since his rookie year.

 

Stroud had the best rookie QB year in NFL history.

Next season, even as a "BY hater" and I 100% wanted stroud over the midget.....the midget played better in 2024-25.

Stroud also had the worst QBing playoff game Ive ever seen, I think he had 5 TOs before halftime.

Plus you have to factor Texas have had a great D since Strouds day 1 and the best overall #1 last year. That allows many QB chances, I think BY would had similar success if not a little more given playing with the #1 yard/score Defense. 

To me it was like talking about Russy Wilson. He had a top 3 D and top 3 rushing for his first like 4 or seasons. He didn't have to do much and he didnt outside his insane 4th quarter magic throw a no look bomb to Lockett. Hell I can play some QB if I have the #1 defense and #1 rushing.....within 2-3 weeks Id be a hand-off expert.....

 

 

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On 5/13/2026 at 5:14 PM, PleaseCutStewart said:

As someone who wanted Stroud over Bryce, Stroud was an absolute Trainwreck last year. He had a dominant defense and all he needed to do was not be god awful. Sadly he was more times than not

And yet, last year, Stroud still had a higher completion %, threw for 30 more yards, 3 less INTs, and 4 less TDs but did all that in 2 less games (kinda 3 as he got hurt early in a game and then missed 2 weeks).

So if he was god awful more times than not... what was Bryce?

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Okay as a ‘take CJ’ fan I actually don’t obsess over CJ and Houston, contrary to the narrative. 
But I thought I picked up some noise that his OL left a lot to be desired. 
 

Not a single Beyce supporter would judge him harshly if he had a crappy OL. We all know that. 
 

So be fair about it.  A QB needs to be protected.  Especially a guy that gets to his spot and wants to finish the play from there. Which CJ is.  

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      Okay as a ‘take CJ’ fan I actually don’t obsess over CJ and Houston, contrary to the narrative.  But I thought I picked up some noise that his OL left a lot to be desired.    Not a single Beyce supporter would judge him harshly if he had a crappy OL. We all know that.    So be fair about it.  A QB needs to be protected.  Especially a guy that gets to his spot and wants to finish the play from there. Which CJ is.  
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