30 members of navy seal team 6 killed today

[Happy Panther]

This is terrible at so many levels ...RIP.

The Muslim terrorist just scored a major victory they killed the group that killed osama. We need to strike back so fuging hard and end these bastards

Yeah more war will solve everything.

[mmmbeans]

I mean in the countries we are fighting in, not in the planes.

The American public just can't stomach seeing war. This country wants to talk about peace, and democracy, not fight for it.

not getting into this argument in this thread.

[Carolina Mike II]

Sad if it is true.....My heart goes out to the families.

However this seems a little strange and almost made up. When I heard it on TV they said that ALL the same guys that took part in killing Ben Dumb A$$ where on the Helo??? REALLY?? ALL of them at once together again??? Seems like a way to protect them rather than they ALL got shoot down....just saying

[Kevin Greene]

Rip

[Fenrir]

Damn. Horrible news...

[PhillyB]

Get the reporters out of there, and we will have it cleaned up in record time.

The USA has been crippled ever since we allowed reporters/cameras to follow them around.

do you believe in a government by the people, for the people?

what do you want troops to do to win the war that you don't want the people to see/know about?

[thefuzz]

do you believe in a government by the people, for the people?

what do you want troops to do to win the war that you don't want the people to see/know about?

I believe in getting out of other countries business.

That said, if we are going to war, go to war. It's not playtime.

[Davidson Deac II]

Sounds like the Insurgents had a unit pinned down, the Seals were sent in to relieve them, and the insurgents were prepared for that action. Unfortunately, sometimes the enemy does things right. And Helicopters are a very useful, but also a very vulnerable means of transportation.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

That sucks... RIP

[EMSMedic79]

Sounds like the Insurgents had a unit pinned down, the Seals were sent in to relieve them, and the insurgents were prepared for that action. Unfortunately, sometimes the enemy does things right. And Helicopters are a very useful, but also a very vulnerable means of transportation.

No doubt, in that region it's all tall trees with thick canopy. Excellent cover to set up a rocket/SAM attack. I hate it for those guys. In some ways their in a no win situation.

[PhillyB]

I believe in getting out of other countries business.

That said, if we are going to war, go to war. It's not playtime.

so if the people of the united states of america chose, via their elected representatives, to go to war with another nation, they should be kept from knowing how their military goes about eschewing playtime?

i'd be interested in knowing what you mean by that last statement.

[Liminy]

Nothing against the armed forces of any type.

But think about this...

If the USA turned into something along the lines of an Afghanistan-ish nation, where the states ended up becoming groups of people/vigilantes and were protecting their beliefs, way of life, families, homes, and such with no organized system in place (I know it wouldn't be the same but the general idea is) and someone invaded here and tried to force their will and political way of life upon you, and you fought back. YOU would be a "terrorist". In my opinion, if you believe that people fighting on their homeland for their way of life is something completely terrible that they don't deserve to live, then your either a hypocrite, or you should gain some intelligence about other peoples struggles and how America isn't the fuging peacekeepers.

[thefuzz]

so if the people of the united states of america chose, via their elected representatives, to go to war with another nation, they should be kept from knowing how their military goes about eschewing playtime?

i'd be interested in knowing what you mean by that last statement.

It's not about keeping people in the dark, it's about being tough as a nation. We are not a tough nation any longer, we can't stomach what real war is, nor do we want to.

I believe in getting out of Iraq and Afganistan, but if we are there, then fight like hell. If we carpet bombed half of a city where insurgents were hiding the American public would raise holy hell.

I wonder how much Winston Churchill worried about innocent people dying during his midnight air raids over Germany?

[thefuzz]

P.S. If this gets moved to the Tinderbox you won't see me in this thread any longer. I haven't been in there in years.