A QB Comparison

[blackcatgrowl]

Cam Newton - Rookie debut 2011 - Week 3 -

Vs. CIN - Loss 13-24

Completions - 6

Attempts - 19

Completion rate - 31.6

Int - 0

TDs - 0

Sacks taken - 2

Preseason Stats through week 3

Completions - 22

Attempts - 52

Completion rate - 42.3

Int - 0

TDs - 0

Sacks taken - 4

Josh Freeman - Rookie debut 2009 - Week 3 -

Vs. MIA - Loss 6-10

Completions - 6

Attempts - 16

Completion rate - 37.5

Int - 0

TDs - 0

Sacks taken - 1

2009 Preseason Stats

Completions - 22

Attempts - 49

Completion rate - 44.9

Int - 3

TDs - 1

Sacks taken - 2

So basically, Newton is getting more pressure (twice as many sacks in one less game), is making less mistakes (no ints) but still playing comparatively to a rookie performance of a guy who is now an established starter in our division,

Can we calm down now?

[Urrymonster]

How did Freeman's rookie campaign go? Hmm seems it was the second year he improved in... so why rush Cam?

This is no argument for him starting this year, plus Cam was picked #1 and Freeman #17. You don't draft projects at #1.

[panther4life]

Cam Newton - Rookie debut 2011 - Week 3 -

Vs. CIN - Loss 13-24

Completions - 6

Attempts - 19

Completion rate - 31.6

Int - 0

TDs - 0

Sacks taken - 2

Preseason Stats through week 3

Completions - 22

Attempts - 52

Completion rate - 42.3

Int - 0

TDs - 0

Sacks taken - 4

Josh Freeman - Rookie debut 2009 - Week 3 -

Vs. MIA - Loss 6-10

Completions - 6

Attempts - 16

Completion rate - 37.5

Int - 0

TDs - 0

Sacks taken - 1

2009 Preseason Stats

Completions - 22

Attempts - 49

Completion rate - 44.9

Int - 3

TDs - 1

Sacks taken - 2

So basically, Newton is getting more pressure (twice as many sacks in one less game), is making less mistakes (no ints) but still playing comparatively to a rookie performance of a guy who is now an established starter in our division,

Can we calm down now?

No two players that are worthy of discussion can be compared directly to each other. Especially when were talking two different teams in two different years.

Trying to convince the huddle to calm down is mission impossible and rather pointless.

Not trying to ignite argument here but just throwing out my 2 cents

[Ricky Spanish]

I hate comparison threads like this. for every pro bowler you throw out there, someone else is going to give 8 busts just to prove you wrong.

[bbell21]

Man glad you posted this, Iv'e been looking all over for past pre-season numbers. Where did you find them?

[Cat'sGrowl]

No. No we can't. Cam is a failure. Panthers are a failure. Were all going to die.

[rico6]

Glad you posted this. At the very least it gives people a perspective on things, and what to expect for Cam.

[blackcatgrowl]

No two players that are worthy of discussion can be compared directly to each other. Especially when were talking two different teams in two different years.

Trying to convince the huddle to calm down is mission impossible and rather pointless.

Not trying to ignite argument here but just throwing out my 2 cents

Do what? People compare players from other teams all the time.

Now, people are blowing up Newton... but looking at another team in our division's proven starter's rookie debut IS a good comparison to see where the bar should be set.

[blackcatgrowl]

Man glad you posted this, Iv'e been looking all over for past pre-season numbers. Where did you find them?

I pulled the numbers from NFL.com

[Mother Grabber]

I hate comparison threads like this. for every pro bowler you throw out there, someone else is going to give 8 busts just to prove you wrong.

I love comparison threads like this, so GTFO. :)

[TheRealDeal]

***Insert stats for other 100 busts here***

Cam is like no one else, citing stats that look similar to his is no way to draw any type of conclusions. IF he is to succeed, it will be by being similar to Cam Newton, no one else.

/thread

[blackcatgrowl]

How did Freeman's rookie campaign go? Hmm seems it was the second year he improved in... so why rush Cam?

This is no argument for him starting this year, plus Cam was picked #1 and Freeman #17. You don't draft projects at #1.

Not this poo again...

First off, Newton is no more of a project than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers was when they were drafted. It's called being a rookie. Not being a project.

Secondly. I am not saying Newton should be given the starter role. I've never said that once. However, I think he will be by default given Jimmy's performance last year.

[Davidson Deac II]

How did Freeman's rookie campaign go? Hmm seems it was the second year he improved in... so why rush Cam?

This is no argument for him starting this year, plus Cam was picked #1 and Freeman #17. You don't draft projects at #1.

You do at QB. Almost all Quarterbacks drafted are projects, whether they play or not in the first season.

[Panthro]

How did Freeman's rookie campaign go? Hmm seems it was the second year he improved in... so why rush Cam?

This is no argument for him starting this year, plus Cam was picked #1 and Freeman #17. You don't draft projects at #1.

Maybe he improved the second year because he actually got to play his rookie year.