It's time fo stop using "rookie QB" and "new system" as excuses for losses.

[Cat'sGrowl]

If they were costing us games, it would be different. They are reason we have been in games. The team isn't making excuses, neither should we. This team has talent-lots of it-it should be better than 1-3.

I take a hungry, angry, young, talented Panthers team at home next week against a divisional opponent.

[Happy Panther]

Amen.

[Gamecockfan40]

Agree 100%. Seems like all facets of our game have looked good at some point or another it jsut seems we havent all showed up to the same games. I think next week will really show the character of the team this year.

[csx]

and my favorite "lack of OTAs"

[X-Clown]

Lol, yes our new defensive system has been a raging success, fantastic and well thought out OP

[panthers55]

I don't see it as an excuse but it is a fact. We do have a rookie Qb and a new system. On the other hand the offensive system appears very good as does our rookie Qb. I don't think they are the reasons we are losing.

Now if you want to talk special teams. penalties, and run defense, then you have lots of reasons we aare losing right now. Fix those and we still win 6 or 7 games this year.

[lightsout]

I agree. I mean, they are still learning, but we have enough talent to be 4-0 right now (or at least 2-2 or 3-1). Little mistakes are costing us, and have been for 4 weeks now. Were it not for the fact that we're just better than the Jags, we would have lost that game due to mistakes. Gotta cut these drive killing penalties out and absolutely HAVE to fix ST. I say a complete overhaul of the ST is in order, especially after yesterday.

[bauss]

Even with some red zone and penalty woes it's not the "rookie qb" or the offenses fault the panthers have lost. The defense just can't seem to stop ANYONE.

I haven't seen really much of this rookie QB and new system blame you speak of to actually have a causation to create this thread.

[lightsout]

Even with some red zone and penalty woes it's not the "rookie qb" or the offenses fault the panthers have lost. The defense just can't seem to stop ANYONE.

I haven't seen really much of this rookie QB and new system blame you speak of to actually have a causation to create this thread.

The defense hasn't done bad. Just big plays. There haven't been a lot of long-drives against our D. I think our D is behind where it needs to be, but we're missing 4 guys that were penciled in as starters in the preseason.

[rayzor]

sucky special teams, a swiss cheese defense, a milkion penalties, and legadu naanee are reasons that we are losing.

it isn't cam. he's the only reason we are at all close in these games.

coaches need to get things tightened up. players need to quit screwing up.

[panther4life]

While were at it, let's stop blaming the DTs. The biggest runs we give up are ones bounced to the outside and they get around an end, then a fullback or tight end seals of the linebacker leaving a safety to make the tackle.

[Darth Biscuit]

sucky special teams, a swiss cheese defense, a milkion penalties, and legadu naanee are reasons that we are losing.

it isn't cam. he's the only reason we are at all close in these games.

coaches need to get things tightened up. players need to quit screwing up.

This... who's making excuses? The offense isn't the problem here.

[Lumps]

Yep. Rookie QB? No fuging excuse, he is shattering records that have been upheld for decades.

Coaches need to get the ball rolling, NOW.

[Lumps]

While were at it, let's stop blaming the DTs. The biggest runs we give up are ones bounced to the outside and they get around an end, then a fullback or tight end seals of the linebacker leaving a safety to make the tackle.

Because our two stud LBs are out, along with our #1 corner.

The DTs are a HUGE problem, our LBs (and Gamble) are just injured, big difference.

We need DT more than anything at this point.