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Panthers moving to a 3-4??? Says McDerm

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Switching to a 3-4 is just a bad idea. We don't have the personal and it would set us back even farther than we are now.

Yes. Switching to a 3-4 now would be a disaster. And if there is one thing we don't want it is our defense to be a disaster. /sarcasm

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In the future would make sense........Carolina pretty much as nothing upfront on D. Charles Johnson is big and good enough to play the DE spot in a 3-4 and Beason can fit as well.

Outside of those 2.....the only person that really gets hurt my it is Greg Hardy.

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Yes. Switching to a 3-4 now would be a disaster. And if there is one thing we don't want it is our defense to be a disaster. /sarcasm

The reason our defense is a disaster is because of injuries. At full health, we can hold our ground. Switching schemes would be a disaster for years to come. You don't just flip a switch and everything is good to go. Switching schemes takes time and the right personal, which we do NOT have. And if you think we do, pass over what you're smoking.

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I told myself I wouldn't step foot back in here for the rest of the season, but this thread interests me.

Move to the 3-4 is the right move. The 4-3 just ain't working, folks. You don't keep trying something that is killing you. If we move to a 3-4 and it fails, we're in the EXACT same spot we're in now and if it isn't looking promising, we jump back in the 4-3.

I love our linebackers for it. Anderson and Connor in the middle with Williams and honestly, Norwood, on the outsides. Anderson and Norwood playing strong side, Williams and Connor playing weak side.

We rotate guys in at the NT until we find the right one. I think McClain will do a better job than Fua, but I wouldn't mind seeing Kearse in there either. He's a big body.

Ends are obvious, Johnson and Hardy. To the people saying Hardy is too small...don't Indy run the 3-4? Dwight Freeney does fine.

I like move. Gives us more options for zone-blitzing schemes and it gives us the opportunity to get guys flying downhill making tackles rather than having our front 4 pushed back into the LBs every play.

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Write-up from the Observer:

Panthers using more 3-man fronts

At his introductory press conference in January, Ron Rivera mentioned the possibility of mixing in the 3-4 with the Panthers' traditional 4-3 scheme.

In a Week 6 loss at Atlanta, the Panthers unveiled the look for three plays. Two were successful, one resulted in a long run for the Falcons.

But it sounds like the Panthers will continue to use the 3-4 and could possibly evolve into a base 3-4 team by next season. Before arriving in Carolina, Rivera ran the 3-4 as San Diego's defensive coordinator.

“I know he feels very confident in the 3-4 and what it brings to the table. And knows its strengths and weaknesses. And he has shared them with me,” said defensive coordinator Sean McDermott, who ran the 4-3 in Philly. “That's part of the reason, quite frankly, that I came down here – so we could get together and merge our systems together. I think in due time you'll see that and you'll see the effectiveness of both.”

Against the Falcons, Carolina used defensive ends Charles Johnson and Antwan Applewhite as stand-up, outside linebackers, and lined up James Anderson and Dan Connor at inside linebacker.Ron Fields lined up as the nose guard, although rookie Frank Kearse has experience there, too.

Applewhite, who was with Rivera in San Diego, likes the scheme as a change-up. But Applewhite said the Panthers would need an offseason to install it if they wanted to make it their base defense.

--Joseph Person

Read more: http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2011/10/panthers-using-more-3-man-fronts.html

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The reason our defense is a disaster is because of injuries. At full health, we can hold our ground. Switching schemes would be a disaster for years to come. You don't just flip a switch and everything is good to go. Switching schemes takes time and the right personal, which we do NOT have. And if you think we do, pass over what you're smoking.

Our healthy defense didn't hold their ground in the preseason or week 1 so I don't know about that.

As I said earlier I doubt that they "flip a switch" and go 3-4. It would be implemented piece by piece over several weeks. And likely wouldn't be our base formation until next season if that truly was the direction Rivera wanted to go.

And right now we don't have the personnel to run a 4-3 either.

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I told myself I wouldn't step foot back in here for the rest of the season, but this thread interests me.

Move to the 3-4 is the right move. The 4-3 just ain't working, folks. You don't keep trying something that is killing you. If we move to a 3-4 and it fails, we're in the EXACT same spot we're in now and if it isn't looking promising, we jump back in the 4-3.

I love our linebackers for it. Anderson and Connor in the middle with Williams and honestly, Norwood, on the outsides. Anderson and Norwood playing strong side, Williams and Connor playing weak side.

We rotate guys in at the NT until we find the right one. I think McClain will do a better job than Fua, but I wouldn't mind seeing Kearse in there either. He's a big body.

Ends are obvious, Johnson and Hardy. To the people saying Hardy is too small...don't Indy run the 3-4? Dwight Freeney does fine.

I like move. Gives us more options for zone-blitzing schemes and it gives us the opportunity to get guys flying downhill making tackles rather than having our front 4 pushed back into the LBs every play.

Indy runs 4-3.

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Our healthy defense didn't hold their ground in the preseason or week 1 so I don't know about that.

As I said earlier I doubt that they "flip a switch" and go 3-4. It would be implemented piece by piece over several weeks. And likely wouldn't be our base formation until next season if that truly was the direction Rivera wanted to go.

And right now we don't have the personnel to run a 4-3 either.

I just think it's a bad idea. But as someone stated above, Rivera knows better than me.

EDIT: and I can't believe I misspelled personnel in two separate posts.

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