Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

What if JP just wanted the 17 million?


thunderraiden

Recommended Posts

what if it was all a ploy cuz he noticed he would make 17 million this year if he did everything he did up until now... i mean...

if he didnt sign a new contract and said that he wouldnt sign any other to any other teams (mysterious AFC team = no team) and didn't sign his tender until AFTER the draft wouldn't he get 17 million regardless? We can't cut a walking 2 first round draft picks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You mean you think he didn't want to go anywhere period this year, and just wait next year and either stay here and sign a crazy contract or go anywhere else and sign a crazy contract?

I don't know, because there is no way he would know if next year was really going to be uncapped.

At this point I think we win, because we either have him or get draft picks next year.

It wouldn't be so bad to keep him this year and trade him next year, that would give our other DL guys that extra year to be ready for when he leaves.(not to mention have our other guys in place such as the secondary)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If that was the case he wouldnt of burned any bridges in the process.

Exactly.

Example: Jordan Gross.

He didn't like the deal that was offered, but he signed the tender and played out the season. No one hated the guy and he didn't do anything to disrespect the team. Then, guess what? He gets his big deal this season and everyone is happy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

next season wont be uncapped.

you can count on that

I agree with that b/c the if they do go to an uncapped year then teams would be able to franchise two player..longer contracts and a lot of other not-so-players union friendly tools owners can use against the players.

They will negotiate something but it will be a throw down this time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

ummm, so ur saying, we offer him a bigger contract next year than the one we offered him this year when he makes it seem like he is happy, especially if we finish the season winning the super bowl or win a playoff game or two. I mean, look at the guy in chicago that did that did that big hold out and wanted to leave, they have no problems now in chicago and he is still there.

You guys say he would have signed the big contract but you he gets 17 million this year that he wouldnt have got in the original contract. He would have known he got 17 million last year when he looked at his salary, its fox and hurneys fault for allowing him to make that much off of the franchise tag if he chose not to sign his contract.

Besides, wouldn't he have to say he wanted to leave to insure that the panthers used their franchise on him and not even think about using it on Gross? Like i said, everyone wouldnt be bitching and moaning about his cap hit of 17 million if he was just going to get the same and more for years to come... thought so, he would have got less, now he gets 17 million this year and if he plays like he did last year and just says over and over: "I love carolina im so happy to be here now." How does our front office not do the same thing the Bears front office did and offer j.p. a long term deal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Oh, the high expectations after a draft. Keep your expectations low, people. Darin Gantt's latest "Ask The Old Guy" gives life to one of those lessons about pro football reality as a fan: "Rasheed Walker was a three-year starter at left tackle for the Packers, so Freeling is going to have to work. Hunter's got another big 'un in front of him in Bobby Brown III and a different kind of defensive tackle in Tershawn Wharton. Chris Brazzell II's got a lot of traffic at his position. Zakee Wheatley has to be better than the chronically underappreciated Nick Scott, and Sam Hecht is a fifth-round rookie at the hardest position on the line to play, who probably doesn't have immediate positional flexibility, and a solid free agent addition in Luke Fortner in front of him. "Fans generally love their draft class as soon as it arrives, because there is no evidence to the contrary yet. Once guys get on the field, the reality begins to creep in, and the seasoned among you remember that if you get three or four good players out of a draft, that was an amazing draft." https://www.panthers.com/news/ask-the-old-guy-things-looking-up-after-the-draft-monroe-freeling-luke-kuechly-bryce-young-derrick-brown Don't get crazy. Winning the draft (or the offseason BTW) on paper always leads to good feelings and great expectations, especially when you seemingly succeeded the season before, but let's remember that the Panthers are very much a work in progress. Team building takes time. If we get a couple of starters out of the draft, it's a good draft, but three or four would be an amazing draft, and anything more than that is actually sensational--even if entails a few multiple high end rotational players along with three starters. Moreover, kind of within that same vein, the coaches have to let the kids off the chain. Remember the coach-speak of past coaches about competition that is anything but because coaches have their notions about veteran experience? Not saying that they're necessarily wrong, but sometimes I think their reluctance to put the young guys out there is based somewhat in dogma or possibly fear because big stakes are on the line (e.g., their jobs). It can be frustrating to say the least, but the coaches are supposed to know best. Again, I say all of this so that we can remember to temper expectations and keep them within the realm of reality. It's like telling your mind to think of it as something akin to under-promising and over-delivering. Leave room to be pleasantly surprised for the best case scenario, but be cognizant that that rarely happens. I would think at this point, most of us should be able to recognize growth when we see it, and sometimes that growth doesn't manifest itself in the form of immediate supremacy, but a setting of the stage for long term dominance for years to come. It seems like we're on track for an emergence by 2028 or 2029. We still have huge questions, but by 2029, hopefully we will take our seat at the table of the perennial contenders in the NFL.  
    • You’re playing madden we’re talking real football stuff…. He does have you seen his special on internet he def thinks he’s getting paid 
    • Without the team having an identity kinda hard to predict what they value.  They either are really trying to build a balanced team, or preparing for another swing at qb if Bryce doesn’t pan out. Seems like we value the o line but the $ spent there has been underwhelming besides Lewis, you could say it’s because of injuries but still hasn’t been worth the investment. as already stated, the whole handling of Bryce young as a whole has been ass backwards, we spent the years we’re supposed to take advantage of having a qb with a lower cap hit, building the team up to be adequate. now It appears, key word appears, the saints have done it correctly, which is painful to even think about. Regardless, I hope the front office has paid attention to qb contracts recently, such as Tua, Kyler, Daniel jones(pre colts) and don’t settle for subpar qb play at franchise qb rates    
×
×
  • Create New...