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Anyone else find it funny that suddenly, "sophmore slumps" arent even possible anymore?

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You see, no one thought Cam would have any kind of real success when he first entered the league.  Everyone thought he was pretty much going to be your scrambling QB. (Some of us thought the same, me included)  Yet when Cam came out that first game throwing accurately from the pocket and so on, the media was astonished.  Of course Cam went on to break Peyton's rookie record.  All in all, the sophmore slump talk concerning Cam came about because people didn't expect him to have any kind of real success. 

 

The media expected guys like Luck, RG3, and even Russell Wilson to make a big time impact on their teams.  They were NFL ready. (Whereas again the media just saw Cam as a good college QB.  Yall go back and watch some of the evaluation talk of Cam when he was drafted.  I still remember and won't forget, Skip Bayless said Timmy Te was going to be a more accurate thrower of the ball than Cam ever would be.  I really wish First Take would bring that tape back up again and expose Bayless.)

 

 

So that's why there was a bunch of sophmore slump talk with Cam vs the other guys.

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You see, no one thought Cam would have any kind of real success when he first entered the league.  Everyone thought he was pretty much going to be your scrambling QB. (Some of us thought the same, me included)  Yet when Cam came out that first game throwing accurately from the pocket and so on, the media was astonished.  Of course Cam went on to break Peyton's rookie record.  All in all, the sophmore slump talk concerning Cam came about because people didn't expect him to have any kind of real success. 

 

The media expected guys like Luck, RG3, and even Russell Wilson to make a big time impact on their teams.  They were NFL ready. (Whereas again the media just saw Cam as a good college QB.  Yall go back and watch some of the evaluation talk of Cam when he was drafted.  I still remember and won't forget, Skip Bayless said The Golden Calf of Bristol was going to be a more accurate thrower of the ball than Cam ever would be.  I really wish First Take would bring that tape back up again and expose Bayless.)

 

 

So that's why there was a bunch of sophmore slump talk with Cam vs the other guys.

 

I know I've responded to this type of thing before, but it can't said enough.

 

This maybe mostly true with general media and many fans (bolded portion). 

 

But many NFL types didn't feel that way at all, despite what ESPN wanted you to believe. Trust me!!

 

So you really can't compare media people: Who never watched and broke down film of every Cam game they could find; who didn't go back and interview everyone they could find; including coaches, their wives, teammates, school mates, teachers charity works he assisted, straight from high school, right up to  Auburn. Teams did!

 

This is a myth many so many fell for (Cam was considered a dumb, running QB who couldn't throw or adapt to NFL life and offense). Just like people outside of the Carolina now who don't really follow the Panthers, who may think Newton's is a whiny, self destructive, cancerous, running QB, who's not realizing his talent, and holding the Panthers back from winning, cause of media accounts, when all of you know that's farthest thing from the truth. Well, that's what happened to many of you when he came out of college. Cause I read and had access to NFL and NFL level scouting reports and opinions, and they all loved Cam, just like the Panthers did, cause they all saw, looked into and discovered the same thing or NFL level in depth scouting service. 

 

As far as those QB's from last year. It's the opposite in much different way, obviously. 

 

Three of those guys played in run first offenses. But somehow they got most of the credit for leading those teams. This is truly ironic, since their HC's didn't have enough confidence to start them (Kaepernick), or let the offense begin/run through them (Wash, Seattle, Frisco). And we all know how A. Luck played very mediocre the second half of the season, but was bailed out by his defense in all his ballyhooed come from behind wins. But at least Luck was the starting point of his offense (like Cam), and unlike those others. It's like an Alternate Universe, almost. 

 

Let's see if they all improve and increase their yardage/responsibility? Or will they fall back and the major media will say nothing,  and if/when they do, the'll make excuses for them (unlike Cam)?

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Of all of them, Luck and Wilson are the best of the group. Luck is just phenomenal. I would not have been mad if he came out that same year and we drafted him. RG3 is overrated. Kaep is great but I feel he will be stopped now that there is tape on him.

 

RG3 is the one that will not last very long, especially if he plays as reckless as he has been. The guy has talent but he will burn up like a meteorite entering the atmosphere if he does not slow down.

 

Out of the 4, Kape and RG3 will have major slumps. Luck and Wilson will slow down but pick it up once again. Luck is a turn over machine, but that will be controled in the future.

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Well let's just entertain the notion that Cam 'did' in fact have a Sophomore Slump.  If 4,610 yards and 27 TDs of total offense is a slump... then what's his 3rd year going to look like?  You know, the year that QBs are usually expected to 'breakout'.

 

I sure haven't heard ESPN talk about this nearly as much as they did his Sophomore Slump going into last year.

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I know I've responded to this type of thing before, but it can't said enough.

 

This maybe mostly true with general media and many fans (bolded portion). 

 

But many NFL types didn't feel that way at all, despite what ESPN wanted you to believe. Trust me!!

 

So you really can't compare media people: Who never watched and broke down film of every Cam game they could find; who didn't go back and interview everyone they could find; including coaches, their wives, teammates, school mates, teachers charity works he assisted, straight from high school, right up to  Auburn. Teams did!

 

This is a myth many so many fell for (Cam was considered a dumb, running QB who couldn't throw or adapt to NFL life and offense). Just like people outside of the Carolina now who don't really follow the Panthers, who may think Newton's is a whiny, self destructive, cancerous, running QB, who's not realizing his talent, and holding the Panthers back from winning, cause of media accounts, when all of you know that's farthest thing from the truth. Well, that's what happened to many of you when he came out of college. Cause I read and had access to NFL and NFL level scouting reports and opinions, and they all loved Cam, just like the Panthers did, cause they all saw, looked into and discovered the same thing or NFL level in depth scouting service. 

 

As far as those QB's from last year. It's the opposite in much different way, obviously. 

 

Three of those guys played in run first offenses. But somehow they got most of the credit for leading those teams. This is truly ironic, since their HC's didn't have enough confidence to start them (Kaepernick), or let the offense begin/run through them (Wash, Seattle, Frisco). And we all know how A. Luck played very mediocre the second half of the season, but was bailed out by his defense in all his ballyhooed come from behind wins. But at least Luck was the starting point of his offense (like Cam), and unlike those others. It's like an Alternate Universe, almost. 

 

Let's see if they all improve and increase their yardage/responsibility? Or will they fall back and the major media will say nothing,  and if/when they do, the'll make excuses for them (unlike Cam)?

 

 

I wouldn't say the myth concerning Cam being a running QB was all the media's fault.  He didn't run a pro offense at Auburn, and I would say most of the damage he did in college was with his feet.  That is to say, his opponents was more afraid of him running the ball than throwing it.  Yet if you look at his stats by themselves, his efficiency was through the roof.  His touchdown to inteception ratio was Manning-like.  A lot of fans probably didn't look at those stats.  I think they just focused on his running ability and the fact he didn't run a pro offense.

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I think Kaep is awesome and don't see him slumping.

As a matter if fact the only guy I see slumping would actually be RG3. I don't trust his knee and if they go away from the read option stuff they are doing he won't be as effective even as a passer.

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