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Andrew Luck can't afford to fail.


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Luck is one of the last line of a dying breed of QB. The lead-footed, run like they're running on hot coal, pocket passers. I look around the college and even the high school landscape and it's my observation(and Trent Dilfer's) that the mobile QBs are taking over football. Not in number particularly but in quality NFL caliber talent. From 2011 to 2015, it is obvious that from all the top rated franchise caliber QB in the draft at least 1 or 2 dual threat. From 2011 to 2015 alone we had Cam, RG3, Kapaernick, Geno Smith, EJ manuel, Teddy Bridgewater, Tajh boyd, Brett Hundley, and Jameis Winston. And we're talking about every year here. Those guys are not just strong starters but dynamic franchising figure on and off the field. If this trend continue, what will happen to the Schaubs of the world whom 10 years ago were almost guaranteed a roster spot to just be a game manager.

 

What about T.Brady, P.Manning, were they really great or just product of playing against a bunch of Schaubs? You know, kind of like how so of Babe Ruth's number are questioned because his stats were garnered under a segregated leauge. What if Payton could run a 4.5, could he have won more than just one superbowl. Because I have watched so many of Peyton's game in the playoffs where he need just 3 yard to keep the drive alive but throws an in-completion because he couldn't run to save his life. Remember, a QB is an athlete too. Running and athlete goes hand in hand. Could Peyton have been the Michael Jordan of football instead of a constant debate? Because the Michael Jordan of football in the future will be able to do it all.

 

Now, back to my point, If Luck fails who is going to hold the torch for the so-called greats like Brady and Manning who are about to retire? I believe that is the lens that all the Luck supporters(not necessarily Colts fans) see this world of football. It's like, if Luck fails is there a place for us in this sport of football. Well, to those who see it that, for what it's worth, the QB position was NEVER necessarily meant as a niche for the the athletically challenged. Will football become a sports of athletic freaks like the NBA where no lead-footed, hot coal runners are allowed in? In conclusion, I can understand why the 'media' wants to hide or delay Luck's impending failure.

 

Luck will fail.

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There will always be demand for great traditional passers.  The only problem is that pure traditional pocket passers are becoming the minority in high school and college football.

 

More and more high school and college teams are using great athletes as QBs.  Therefore the field is thinning.  Some teams are devising ways to widen their options at the QB position and others are clinging on the outdated beliefs of two decades ago.

 

As a franchise you should always be looking forward and paying attention to trends in high school and college, not looking back at old school conventional thinking that is starting to be questioned and theories that no longer apply.

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