Give up a 2015 1st round pick for franchise WR?

[ncfan]

But it wasnt even on the Defense, they were hurting on the OL,  at RB after losing Turner (they had to go out and get cheap old washed up Jackson)  No point in trading up when you can still get a solid #1 WR and then use the next years pick on another big hole.  After trading for Julio they had other holes pop up all over on D, RB, and OL but couldn't do anything to fix it but hey, they did get the top WR for the first part of the season instead.  

ATL didn't build their team on defense. They thought they could throw the ball every down and put up 40 every week. So when one of their offensive players go down they can't rely on their D to stop anyone. On the other we have a strong and young defense for years to come, we need an offense to alleviate the pressure on them and now wear them out. Cam's been shouldering the load for this team. We need to make this a professional football team, not a gimmick one man wrecking crew who pulls off a last minute drive every week.

 

[jasonluckydog]

David Gettis,,,,paging David Gettis.

[Evengelion]

most of the best WR in history have been late 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks. it's about finding guys that match with Cam.

 

I'm not saying dont draft or sign a WR. i'm saying dont give up next years first when we are gonna need it

Most playoffs teams haven't made much use of their 1st rounders. They ride the bench for a year or two. We're too anemic offensively to afford that. What's a 1st round pick to a team picking 26-32? We need to fix the WR problem once and for all. I understand your argument but it's an argument for a rebuilding or an aging team. With a Josh Gordon on this team we could be favorite to make the super bowl for the next 3-4 years and we wouldn't even notice we were missing a 2015 pick.

[TheRumGone]

trading up and losing picks is dangerous.

 

especially with how cyclical teams are. players get old (retire) players get injured (can't come back) players leave the team (FA). you are playing with fire. the best bet is to have the most rounded team possible with the fewest holes.

 

I would love for Cam to have a dominate #1 but not at the teams present and future expense.

[FattyFatFat]

No way, don't want to start that poo again. Drafting otah and j stew in the first hurt us for a couple of years. Otah had one good year and is out of the league, j stew is a walking injury who probably won't be on this team next year. Those trades begat Everette brown and jimmy clausen. Look at Atlanta right now-they traded the farm for Julio jones and now they're decimated at oline and dline. Trading into the first seldom pays off. Ask the skins about how they feel about trading for RG knee.

This is when our scouting department and our GM have to find talent in the draft and in FA.

[Udogg]

Well you guys pretty much know I'd give my left arm to get a talented WR.

 

Your left arm is only worth a 6th round pick.

[Evengelion]

But it wasnt even on the Defense, they were hurting on the OL,  at RB after losing Turner (they had to go out and get cheap old washed up Jackson)  No point in trading up when you can still get a solid #1 WR and then use the next years pick on another big hole.  After trading for Julio they had other holes pop up all over on D, RB, and OL but couldn't do anything to fix it but hey, they did get the top WR for the first part of the season instead.  

Your thought process is that of a rebuilding team. We're not a rebuilding team anymore. We'll be picking 26-32. Those are depths picks, not taking the league by storm like Star, Richardson, Luke, etc. type of picks. As a franchise, from where we were before Cam, we got successful too quick. As a result we don't have enough top draft picks to build a formidable all around type of team. It took SF years of mediocrity to pile up all those 1st rounders. The Rams are doing the same. We weren't afforded that luxury of suckness. It's very possible that one year that the whole NFC South could send all their teams to the playoffs. because they accumulated so many top draft picks with their prolong period of suckitude. So, we need to make a move so we don't wake up with Lafell as our #1 receiver. 

 

Think about it, Lafell the #1 WR. What a thought! Heck, that what our playoff picture looks like. Damn!

[ncfan]

No your not rebuilding but your constantly having to build around not just depth.  Why go out and get a guy when you could still get a Solid #1 WR considering How Deep this class is.  Then go out and use next year on another position.  A first rounder is not a "luxury" pick.  First rounders are talented guys who can come right in and make a impact.   

Atlanta Julio was already pretty formidable team who was in the playoff hunt.  They traded all their eggs for that superstar top WR type and then when something comes up like, say we don't resign Hardy, Gross retires etc and we don't have that pick to get his replacement, we are going to be the ones with the egg on our Face like ATL is right now.  Many fans here are in a frenzy thinking that you need to use a first rounder to replace the OT this year.  Say next year Gross retires we have no first rounder still and still havn't fixed that right side.  You could have Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, and Smith in the slot. But if if you have Byron Bell on the Left side and someone worse in the Right plus having our RB issue of replacing Dwill and Stewie the next 2 years (your not going to want to do that with a 4-6th rounder). haha good luck getting to the playoffs even with the #1 Defense.

Your thought process is that of a rebuilding team. We're not a rebuilding team anymore. We'll be picking 26-32. Those are depths picks, not taking the league by storm like Star, Richardson, Luke, etc. type of picks. As a franchise, from where we were before Cam, we got successful too quick. As a result we don't have enough top draft picks to build a formidable all around type of team. It took SF years of mediocrity to pile up all those 1st rounders. The Rams are doing the same. We weren't afforded that luxury of suckness. It's very possible that one year that the whole NFC South could send all their teams to the playoffs. because they accumulated so many top draft picks with their prolong period of suckitude. So, we need to make a move so we don't wake up with Lafell as our #1 receiver. 

 

Think about it, Lafell the #1 WR. What a thought! Heck, that what our playoff picture looks like. Damn!

 

[Goondal]

Do not trade future first round picks, period.

[iamhubby1]

Most playoffs teams haven't made much use of their 1st rounders. They ride the bench for a year or two. We're too anemic offensively to afford that. What's a 1st round pick to a team picking 26-32? We need to fix the WR problem once and for all. I understand your argument but it's an argument for a rebuilding or an aging team. With a Josh Gordon on this team we could be favorite to make the super bowl for the next 3-4 years and we wouldn't even notice we were missing a 2015 pick.

I understand what you are wanting. A Stud #1WR would make us better. We are already a Super Bowl Contender. Even with our holes. Know why? Because no team is set at every position.

We need some help on the O-line first. Then we can go get us a shiney new WR. Personally, I would like a Vet #1, but that ain't happening either. Too expensive.

Gordon would help us. A great Tackle would help us. Hellz, any talented player will help us. All we really need to do is draft well. No need to target any ONE position.

Cam needs an O-line. Cam needs a #1WR. Out of those two. Which is more important?

[dugbug]

Sammy Watkins? Sure. I think you do it but you beed a trade partner somewhere in his pick range. Probably not likely.

[CarolinaNCSU]

This is a deep, deep WR class. I'd double dip in the 1st/2nd/3rd rather than trading a future 1st. 

[Herbert The Love Bug]

I'd take ebron over any receiver. He is huge and catches anything. He is a legit deep target and would stretch the field better than any wr that will be there

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[top dawg]

I have said it several times this year: The WR class appears deep, so I don't see why we'd have to give up a pick in 2014, much less 2015, to draft WR1-like talent. 

 

With impending Pro Days, the Combine, and team workouts on the horizon, it isn't even necessarily smart to assume that Sammy Watkins or Mike Evans will even be the best WRs coming out the draft. Seriously, people. Moreover, what are the chances that there is going to be a rush at WR this year, making it impossible for us to acquire our future number one after a late first round pick. For like the 10th time, guys like Brandon Coleman, Jaelen Strong, Donte Moncrief, Devin Street, Jordan Matthews or some other WR could emerge to be an excellent pick up.  One WR that we may also want to keep an eye on is Chris Boyd who may be available in the later rounds. Sure he got in trouble for failing to come clean about his teammates, but that doesn't make him a horrible person.  Basically, in my opinion it is highly presumptuous to assume that we'd have to trade a pick to get prolific talent at the WR position, especially at this stage in the game.  So far, it appears that a third rounder may be the best WR out of last year's draft. Not to mention that another potential beast (Cordarrelle Patterson) that wasn't drafted until later in the first round may end up surpassing them all after all is said and done.

We have to have patience and do our due diligence to find our guy, otherwise getting the flavor of the month could end up being counterproductive.