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The Huddle has split.....Once Again


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It amazes me that 2 months after winning the NFC South we have so many "Fans" jumping off the bandwagon.

Every off season this forum splits faster than Ochocinco and Evelyn Lozada marriage.

Half are the sky is falling 100% pure pessimist and the others are optimistic and ready to see what pans out before panicking.

The former drives me crazy and I am a part of the latter. I will always have faith and believe that management will make the right decision. Sometimes they don't and a lot of the times they do.

Last year 1/2 thought Cole, Ginn, Mikell and Mitchell were a waste of money and time. They proved to be good choices and our team did well. We had zero leverage room as far as the cap was concerned yet Gettleman did a good job and made us relevant.

This year is a bit worse but we have to believe we will be relevant once the season begins.

I believe many are forgetting we have young players that will be returning to the offensive line in Silatolu,Kugbila and Chandler. While Bell hasn't turned into a pro bowler our staff hasn't given up hope on him (obviously we just re-signed him). I have to believe they see something in him. I believe the year of seasoning will be of great value to all of these guys. Kugbila got to sit and learn without the pressure of playing. That will be a benefit.

McNutt and King were brought into our team to ride the pine? While they didn't play in 2013 I believe they were brought in as the future. They were brought in to learn the system and be ready for next year. I, as an optimist, believe they will have a say in 2014.

We'll add a Free Agent here or there. Most likely after the player who thought he was a big buck player realizes no one is going to pay him the top dollar he thinks he is worth. Gettleman isn't stupid. He'll work his magic and make us relevant in 2014.

Optimists will agree, Pessimists won't. That's the Huddle durng the offseason, it was this way last year, this year and most likely next year.

I think we will be just fine.

GO PANTHERS

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Some of us are kids in a candy store.  We want everything we see and don't care how much it costs.

Some of us are that kid's mother, emotional and nostalgic, remembering when her child was younger and wanting to keep him that age forever.

Some of us are that kid's father, worried about the cost of the candy, the dental visits, and fat camp.

Some of us are that kid's grandparents, knowing that if you do not give in to emotion, temptation and greed,  but exercise caution and patience on a budget, things always have a way of working out.

 

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I think that most of us, like myself, are just fans and want what we feel is best for the/our team, with of course different views. For instance, I'm 100% against getting rid of Steve Smith and I wasn't 100% for franchising Hardy. It's not that I don't believe that Hardy is worth it, it's just that we couldn't afford it, but then again, keeping our d-line intact was a large part of our success last year.

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This isn't a hive mind. There are going to be differing opinions on roster moves regardless of which team board you visit. What's funny are all these self-proclaimed sage gurus that are preaching their elitism and blind faith in the process like that is somehow a more emotionally mature way to approach free agency. You identify players that you think will help this team and if you miss on them, it sucks. Most of us know that you can't get every player you want in free agency, but with the shambles of an offensive line that we have and virtually nothing at the WR position, moves have to be made. And if you sit on your hands and wait for prices to look more reasonable then you have the chance of missing out on a fantastic addition to your squad. You're not going to hit home runs batting for singles all the time. Improving your squad requires balls sometimes and this offseason is a chance for us to hoist our team into the upper echelon and if we waste it, we spend another year of our window with the current group without the results we want.

 

I just can't stand the smug "oh look the babies are whining about us not doing anything", high and mighty fans. We just came off a 12-4 season. We attack this time period if we're serious about winning in my opinion. We don't wait for scraps. Shop smart, but do shop. Or else you're going to be left with the loose change hail marys that we were so fortunate worked out for us last season. If some of you are proposing that lightning will strike twice, I would say that's an unwise gamble.

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I think the huddle splits into two groups

Those that have closely followed 5+ off seasons

And those that haven't.

I used to care and flip out too, but then I realized we have just as much chance as that unknown working out as we do with any big name that comes in.

Most of our successful FA signings have been the no names, with the well known and established players usually with the best case being a 1-2 year stop gap before they either become too expensive or old.

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I just love seeing people turning on "G-man" now.  Oh how he could do no wrong!  I despise that nickname by the way. 

 

I dont mind the nickname, I thought he recieved way too much credit for last season honestly, but overall this offseason has actually boosted his stock with me.

 

but then again I look at more then which big name FA he's overpaid for on the first day of FA, but thats just me.

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