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Something everybody who played high school football in NC under any coach worth a damn learned in June: hydration begins 24 hours before you go to practice. If you're not pissing clear the night before practice, you failed. If you don't wake up to two glasses of water, you've failed. If you don't drink water before practice, you've failed. If you don't drink water between reps, you've failed. If you don't drink water during planned water breaks, you've failed. This is very easy to do. You're gonna be running behind connex boxes and trees and bleachers mid practice sometimes and that is far more acceptable than cramping or stroking out and going to the hospital.

He is not a superstar anymore (if he ever was is a matter of opinion), BUT he is constantly open and catches anything that gets near him!! Definitely still above average even at his age. My only complaint was with the term "washed up". Who the Hell knows what we are getting with Renfrow at this point, and Moore is a career-long average guy who admittedly played pretty danged good down the stretch last year. All 3 of these guys will be 30 this year, and only AT has put up good numbers in recent years. The other 2 are bubble guys IMO.

It's amaerica so we need to start using by which degree with Alabama, Mississippi and WV at the bottom

Drafting players off the operating table is a long-term play, as was drafting XL. XL had the chance to make a splash, but he has raw hands and he went through some turbulence with the offense. I was not expecting a finished product. Now we will see what he has been doing this offseason.

He played like a top half of the league QB to close the year. I think he is near earning his 5th, provided he continues that trajectory.

i've been a fan of both Tame Impala and Thundercat for a while. Not sure how i missed this collaboration.

Making him DTR would keep him safe from PS poachers for the first part of the season, right? That makes our WR corps: AT, XL, JC, TMac, (locks) and Renfrow & Moore (probably) and open George and Hudson for competition for a potential WR6/WR7 spot.

I'm glad we can discuss this rationally. And to be abundantly clear this conversation is strictly about the production on the field. On a personal level I think Thielen is a great guy and a great teammate. Anywho. Just out of boredom I figured this would be an interesting subject to visit. See above for a comparison to other past WR's in his age group. I think he has above average hands and is a really good route runner but speed and YAC are not even on the radar in any capacity let's just be realistic. I just don't see a reality where he's more than a 3rd option on any other teams depth chart. And compared to some of the HOF names mentioned in the thread above who continued producing at a high level age 32 and beyond even in his best years over 11 seasons he's only reached 1k or more yards in a season three times. And one of those was with us in 2023 in what we all generally agree was a top to bottom failure of a season where we clearly force fed him the ball and our passing offense finished 30 out of 32 teams.

He is nowhere near earning that 5th year of his deal. His play has to improve A LOT for us to even consider it.

Not to mention the "over use" was also in the receiving game.. he has about three same amount of receiving yards too

Dowdle was a good pickup, and is trying to earn a big contract so he'll play with a chip on his shoulder for sure. I'm also quite excited about Etienne. He presents a passing option that neither Dowdle or Hubbard have.

Apparently he shaved it off already lol

Did he already sign his contract?

Mahomes did play one game in his rookie year, the last game of the season in which the Chiefs had already secured a playoff spot and had nothing really to play for. Put up almost 300 yards in a win. I think that's what the previous poster was referring to.

If he plays like he did at Atlanta then yes, most definitely.

If he keeps making it around the curve, I'll be happy. He gave us some reason to look forward to this coming season. He has a good chance to come roaring out of the blocks with the schedule we have ahead of us. If he gets something to build upon, who knows where we can go. It's too soon to hope for playoffs, but wouldn't it be nice?

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Still somewhat to be determined but definitely the closest one

Because he was the one pounding the table on that draft pick

probably horn and etienne will end up with the majority of return duties.

Hubbard might see reduced carries this year since we picked up the Cowboys free agent.