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The whole team and organization is suffering. The fan base is holding on by fingernails hoping that somehow/someway he will turn it around. Isn't going to happen. Hopefully the brain trust is trying to fiqure out how to take him out of the equation for the rest of the season and send him back to California after that. They have to do something.

Raiders will take a chance on him first before he becomes a career 2nd/3rd string QB. If he decides he is not ok with that, I see him deciding to retire.

It’s just as much a dead horse to keep trying to blame other things over Young. He was absolutely the reason we lost, period. There was no gaming around a D that had zero respect for Young throwing downfield and Young playing right into their hands. The defense had two slip ups but they had us in the game and I can’t blame them for mistakes/getting worn down when your QB has 8 of 9 3 and outs after the opening drive. We have one problem to fix to get us to the point where we can then discuss other issues. Until then, the rest is just verbal diarrhea.

Lol. I love the fact that this was so far under your skin that you had to come back and continue the debate. We beat Green Bay and then got demolished by the Saints. Winning a single decent matchup doesn't negate the fact that they have the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL.

If we didn't yank him, he would also break his 30 INT season record. DC isn't exactly scheming guys open very often. You would see some WILD INT's.

I said this in another thread. It’s like watching half an offense try to win games. Bryce is so limiting that they have to scheme around him to try to move the ball. Aside from Dowdle’s great run of games, they haven’t had any answers.

No specific teams but I think two more stops and then out of the league. Likely for 1-3 years at most.

I don’t feel the Panthers actually feel heat when it comes to Bryce yet. Canales said she threw the ball great lol. At some point, we need the media to really start addressing how inept Bryce is and the fact he is the common denominator…..and in year 3 isn’t better than meh rookies

Excellent work. I did this as rough ranges but this is far more detailed and a more clear visual representation of what we are dealing with.

Drafting Dillon Gabriel in the 3rd round was a foolish overdraft. Drafting Bryce Young 1st overall in a trade up will go down as one of the worst draft trades in NFL history. Small QB's get taken all the time, it's the wild overdrafting that is absurd.

When DC was speaking about Tetairoa he explicitly mentioned that first rounders need to be physically gifted. There’s no way he would have wanted Bryce. Tepper has to let him pick his own guy.

How so? He didnt draft him, hes not the gm, and it looks nothing like any offense hes been a part of in the past.

I would not say I'm a Nut hugger because I thought he would come around but after watching yesterday's performance I no longer believe he's anything more than a capable backup. The question is, is do you take a midround first for a QB? I also believe we need a good offensive coordinator. We run thw most vanilla offense in the league.

If i had to guess probably coaching. As they those that cant do tend to teach.

Nah. Defense revolves around Brown. Get the best guy we can where we pick and keep trying to we hit. And don’t wait four years either, find a backup that can actually play to take over if we get another Bryce.

I’m so tired of the bs rhetoric that tries to compare Baker and Darnold having success after they leave here with Bryce. Not saying this thread is that, but same topic. I see it all the time on social media. There is no carryover between those Panthers teams and this one unless they’re trying to say the problem was Jansen or Moton. The problem then was Rhule and his staff. They’re gone. The problem now is Bryce.

I look at like there could have been an agreement to give Bryce two years while they build the team out some more. Could have been three. He has 7 more games to change peoples’ minds and I know full well that a nice job and a win next week gets a lot of people back on his ‘side’. Some still are. They are just laying low around here today.

Yeah ive got zero hugs left. But i will say the offensive plays and WRs leave a lot to be desired too

Out of the league in 2 years.

He doesn't even have the physical talent to be a 3rd stringer. He'll be out of the league soon after we get rid of him.

The thing that really sticks me with Canales is, if you’ve worked your whole life to reach the pinnacle of the coaching profession, and you finally get the opportunity to become one of only 32 people in the world doing it… and you decide to commit so hard to this fuging bum who will not only get you fired if you stick with him, but will likely tank your chances of ever getting the opportunity to do it again. That’s why it HAS to be Tepper’s call. IT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE. Everyone, coach or not, has a threshold and a survival instinct attached to it - and the thought that DC hasn’t reached that point yet with the reputation he has as a QB whisperer while the guy he keeps trotting out there ha solidified himself as the worst starting QB in league history? And again, that’s in the face of know DC needs and prefers guys with the physical tools to sling the football. It just makes no fuging sense. And it pisses me off even more with Tepper because you see all this and you’re still forcing him to play Bryce?????? You’re supposed to be the self-made, intelligent dude, and you are so fuging stubborn you choose to cut your nose off to spite your face every fuging Sunday you play this bitch. It’s insane.

fug no just sign a decent vet that can throw past 20 yards. You need to build a culture not keep trading away the occasional talent we hit on in the draft, dude already bought a house and is still working his ass off after signing a contract where a lot of other guys start mailing it in

Sadly, I’ve talked with a lot of my fellow alumni and Heel fans, and I’ve said, sadly, UNC is in the same exact position with Gio as the Panthers are with Bryce. And the way the situations mirror each other are EERIE. I’ve said here repeatedly how whoever Bryce’s personal team is that conned an NFL front office into taking him as a first round pick, let alone the #1 overall pick, deserve to retire off whatever money he’s made due to their efforts. This poo would make Chauncey Billups’ crime bosses blush.. Same for Gio. Whoever he has around him, representing him, that convinced a power 4 school to pay this MF MILLIONS of dollars at the college level coming from Southwest Alabama Technical Basket Weaving School for the Deaf, Dumb, and Blind University, just to come make the whole rest of the UNC squad look like absolute poo is a fuging amazing sell. I’m talking Tai Lopez level scam poo. And for both to con their way to their position at their respective levels of competition, only to get there and be so clearly the worst piece on their team while simultaneously play the most important position on the field - I’ve never seen anything like it. And what’s worse, in both cases, the organization chooses to keep putting them out there in large part because of ego and investment made. And all they keep doing is making the rest of the team look fuging atrocious. They both literally hold the entire team back by their presence alone. And as an aside, Lopez may have the slowest fuging release I have ever witnessed in my life. In talking slower and longer than fuging The Golden Calf of Bristol.

@AceBoogie Where you at? You need to come defend your QB!

@AceBoogie Where you at? You need to come defend your QB!