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Fitt had a first round grade on him

Besides the history of this matchup, the current teams don’t offer much.

I don't honestly think it mattered which QB we drafted at that point in time because Matt Rhule made it abundantly clear he wanted no parts of attempting to develop a rookie QB. He fed Corral to the wolves that preseason.

It's hard to account for scheme. I think you default to ignoring it when you compare because sometimes those players were great in thoss schemes because they fit them perfectly(Norman being an example).

Well, come on, who are the other two?

Rated #'s are made up and just accepted by the experts (people paid to talk about this stuff with zero accountability). Doesn't really matter except the in house grades. That was also not a good draft to need a QB. Corral was terrible by every definition.

That's another stellar pair. I will take a look at them too. I think I will try to do the best "pair" season versus this season that Horn/Jackson are having.

It's just hard to wrap your brain around getting away with a facemask and horse collar earlier and then you aren't at peak awareness especially at that point in the game. It's just really questionable and confusing. But we do have some very low IQ players (XL) so.

Just because we play him at wr, doesn't mean he is an NFL starting wr.

I mean, other than being the 2nd most penalized WR in the entire NFL? Edit: Most if you count declined penalties.

Where are the rankings that had Corral rated much higher than Willis? I don't recall that at all. Corral didn't flop here, he flopped period. He was a 3rd round pick who never suited up for an NFL regular season game. That's abysmal.

Nothing really unbelievable about that when you look at player penalties https://www.nflpenalties.com/all-players.php?year=2025&view=total

Steve Wilks, CMC and Sam Darnold all ended up in the SB in 2023 when the Panthers drafted Bryce Young #1. And the 49ers franchise QB in the SB was chosen 1 pick before Bryce Young. I suggested a 99 Rams all in offensive strategy going into 2022. Fire Rhule at the end of 2021. I was good with Wilks returning as a HC. We don't get what we want. If I did, the Panthers would have never needed Sean Gilbert and the Panthers first ten 1st round picks would have been Warren Sapp, Ty Law, Bobby Taylor, Ray Lewis, Tiki Barber, Randy Moss, Jevon Kearse, Chris Hovan, Dan Morgan, and Julius Peppers.

I don't think he was rated higher at all. I remember plenty of guys saying Willis was a first round talent.

I agree. I think our two outside guys look better this year because teams just pick on the middle of the field as well. It's like when our pass defense looked ok last year because teams just ran on us.

Koochie on IR again. wtf.

Davis and Poole

Bro gamble was the poo.

Corral was simply rated much higher, and that's not revisionist history. Comparing Bryce and Stroud, and even X and Ladd to Corral and Willis seems like more of an apples to oranges comparison in my opinion. That being said, Willis likely would've flopped here, just like Corral did. Hell, Stroud may not be the QB he is either (but that's an interesting aside to ponder). The thing with X and Ladd was we went for upside and RAS over definitive route running...which was stupid IMO, but several teams skipped the smallish, unassuming white guy, notwithstanding his expert route running...

I feel like I've been stealing from my employer wasting my time watching this trash Birmingham Bowl. Haha.

If we could trade him for a 5th or better I would I just don't think anyone would offer it. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make the final roster next year.

He played in Tennessee.. he wasn't ready there. I think we are seeing a comment tread most QBs including Bryce, Caleb williams drake maye Sam darnold guys who have talent but aren't ready year one. I think we give up on talent to early instead of working with the guys who have the tools.