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Make a thread about it. No one is going to talk about Bryce Young in a Mike Jackson thread.

Penix absolutely got worse later in the game, but early in the game there were several throws that didn't look like he and the WR were on the same page. Like there's bad throws then there's the qb throwing a different route. maybe the headsets were off in the first half and penix had just melted down by the second half

Yeah, but you projecting things not said. I didn't say PJ Walker would win more games. I specifically said he would be bad. But PJ Walker's bad is just a far more entertaining version of bad and most importantly.......the threat of PJ Walker ruining the next season wouldn't be on the table (which it is for Bryce). We hired Canales and we all should of known what he was. He told us. If you are wanting some creativity and great scheme you are barking up the wrong tree. You need a QB that can play within what the O asks. This whole notion that no one can do better than Bryce but Pro Bowl level talent is just silly. That's what people are tired. Josh Allen would be 3-0 here. Proof is in the pudding. Take the INSANE difference between Cam and Jimmy with merely largely a TE upgrade.

Texans cut CJGJ

Listen, I get it. You think Bryce is bad. I might think hes bad too, but we know your opinions, its crazy to push them on every single post regardless of what its about. I think Bryce is probably bad too, but I would still like to talk about the team and positives and negatives about all aspects of the team. The worst thing is you guys freak out and get loudest any time we win or Bryce has any kind of decent game. That's when you have to make sure everyone hears your opinion the loudest.

Hell if I know I'm just trying to come up with excuses for them. LOL

BOOM! Here comes the BOOM! Ready or not, here comes the boys from the south!!!

good for you. your fandum is admirable.

This is why people are tired of these posts. Bryce has been bad no doubt, and he has to play better or we will be looking for a new QB after the season. But the same 5 posters in every thread suggesting that PJ Walker or Sam Howell or Aiden O'Connell would be winning more games is asinine and borders on delusion. None of those players are better than Dalton and he was AWFUL last year. There are about 10-11 serviceable QB's in the world - Allen, Lamar, Herbert, Mahomes, Stafford, Goff, Dak, Baker, Love, Daniels, Hurts (and only because he is playing on a stacked team, Hurts would be bad here), Daniel Jones (who I think is a mirage and will Darnold back to earth), and we don't have one. It is what it is. Replacing the 29th best QB with someone in the 30's or 50's isn't changing a damn thing on this team. Both Bryce and Canales are to blame. The offense cannot be this bad with this much invested in it. Even with Bryce not throwing downfield, Canales has to scheme better and be more creative. We have a talented running game yet everything we've ran so far is very vanilla.

Isn't Jacksonville St in Alabama?

i agree with this part of the young issue is the o is sooo boring with him at qb. panthers have been bad forever but its hit close to clausen level of boringness with young.

His Freshman year he played for Jackson State, which is in Mississippi and closer to the Saints and Falcons than the Jags, maybe even the Texans, Cowboys, and Titans as well, lol

I wish had that level of optimism, but I look at this roster and that leaves me immediately. Certainly hope you are right.

Why do you guys insist on always talking about the biggest, most glaring problem on the team

It's the most important and impactful position and it's not close. And on top of being bad, Young makes the O boring. PJ Walker bad would lead to more convos. Because the play would be more entertaining and there would be zero concern the horrific nature of the QB spot could extend beyond this year (and that is why the convo stays on Bryce because the threat remains).

Year 3 of this top paid offensive line in the nfl, two first round wrs, very good running back, whole different coaching staff imagine having these arguments about Jimmy Clausen

Bryce has 1 anomaly game to his career 33 game career. That's it. I think if you look at his deep throws paired w/ Canales and omit that one game that just makes zero sense.... Bryce is like 5 for 24 when going 20+ yards w/ 3 INTs. And keep in mind, prior to that week 18 game folks were claiming he was the best deep passer in the league lol because of how PFF chooses to reward a contested ball.

I think the majority did. I don't know how the Jags deluded themselves. Might've been a bit of "hometown kid" bias at play with him being a Florida kid (albeit Miami area) but having gotten his collegiate start at Jacksonville State .

These posts read like a guy in a doomed marriage who gets upset one trip to McDonald’s without a fight didn’t save everything.

Doesn't it get tired just arguing the same point over and over no matter what's happening? It was posted as a way to bash Bryce, someone says all the offenses that run very often are near the bottom. Then it erupts in to the same people making comment after comment about how bad bryce is. There is no conversation, there is no dialogue, there's no football talk that doesnt just devolve in to how bad Bryce is. There are other conversations about the team that could be had.

The Texans and Chiefs will still find a way to win their divisions.

On NFL Power Rankings we have moved up from last place to the 21slot we jumped 8 points the Saints are in last place now Rank 21 8 Carolina Panthers 1-2 Three of the Panthers’ seven victories with Bryce Young starting at quarterback have come against Atlanta. He’s 3-1 against the Falcons and 4-25 against the rest of the league, which is strange, but no one is going to sneeze at a 30-zip whooping after the uninspired 0-2 start. In the first 96 minutes of the season, the Panthers were outscored 53-13. Since then, it has been a 49-0 edge for Carolina. They certainly feel like a more confident operation right now, especially defensively. There are still some warts that could come out against stronger teams, but this suddenly doesn’t look close to the worst defense in the league. Chau Smith-Wade had a pick-six, Mike Jackson added a pick and Christian Rozeboom and A’Shawn Robinson were highly disruptive. This might not be the 1985 Bears, but the Panthers’ no-name defense has come alive. NFL Power Rankings, Week 4: Lions and Chargers vault into top five, while Colts crack top 10

The red flag with the black square centered is the international storm warning flag. A single flag indicates a storm warning, two flags stacked is a hurricane warning. In my opinion, the best logo the Canes ever had.

I am not. Texans haven't started very strong the last couple of years. 0-2 Ryans first year and 2-1 the second year albeit against some bad teams. This year, the started off with three potential playoff teams.

it would have leaked I would have guessed just like everything else