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Panthers meet with Ryan Shazier


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I wouldn't be completely mad about this, the dude is a game changer, and would be a value at 28.  I love TD, especially as someone who's had both ACLs repaired myself, but it's hard to say how long he will be able to play at a high level on that knee.

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I wonder how many of yall watched Ohio State football regularly? I have to. My GF is an alumni. I don't remember hearing much about him last season.

 

Don't care for the pick if he's the guy (at least in the first round). I think there's a chance he will drop. He's undersized and would only play sparingly next year for us. I'd rather get a guy who can fill a need. Ohio State doesn't play anybody. 

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We have 2 needs on offense --WR, T

 

We have 5 needs on defense (some are debatable, but you have to look at the depth and forward to 2015 and consider the cap--Johnson $17m, Davis $9m, Hardy ??? m, etc)  CB, S, OLB, DE, DT (Cole and Edwards gone by 2015).

 

Do not be surprised to see our draft feature 4-5 defensive players

 

I have spoken.

 

:judge: :abe:

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Here's what we know about Shazier:

• He's an explosive blitzer

• One of the best (if not, the best) coverage LBs in the draft

• He's a very good tackler, especially in the open field

• Very athletic (ran a 4.37 at his Pro Day)

• Durable

• His Football IQ and Instincts are above average

 

All qualities we may need soon because 1) Much as I love Thomas Davis, he's not getting any younger and 2) I don't think he has another miracle comeback in him if one of his knees goes again.

 

Think 'successor', not 'replacement'.

 

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- David was undersized.

- Kuechly was from Boston College. They didn't play anybody either.

Here's what we know about Shazier:

• He's an explosive blitzer

• One of the best (if not, the best) coverage LBs in the draft

• He's a very good tackler, especially in the open field

• Very athletic (ran a 4.37 at his Pro Day)

• Durable

• His Football IQ and Instincts are above average

 

Shazier will be an awesome pick for us if we can somehow work Purdue, Illinois, and Indiana in to our schedule. 

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We have 2 needs on offense --WR, T

 

We have 5 needs on defense (some are debatable, but you have to look at the depth and forward to 2015 and consider the cap--Johnson $17m, Davis $9m, Hardy ??? m, etc)  CB, S, OLB, DE, DT (Cole and Edwards gone by 2015).

 

Do not be surprised to see our draft feature 4-5 defensive players

 

I have spoken.

 

:judge: :abe:

 

only 2??? we need 2 WRs... a LT and a RT. RG is also a huge question mark. and with one old RB and one who hasnt stayed healthy in two seasons, RB is also a question mark. our D  is leaps and bounds in better shape than the O...

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I'm not worried about TD's knees anymore. He's proven that he can play at a high level without issues.

My concern is that he is getting older and really expensive cap wise.

Luke will get a new deal soon and you absolutely cannot have two LB's making over $10MM per year.

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