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Appears that B.Bell may be watching from bench if things don't improve

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it's a shame that we are going to have to wait until spartanburg to see who wins out. that, in my book, is a fail.

 

we should be going into TC knowing who the starting OL is so they can be getting their reps and hit the ground running as a unit.

 

TC needs to be all about the OL gelling, not try outs to see who is going to be on it.

 

It would obviously be great if they could spend all of TC working as a unit but it's not uncommon to have position battles going on that late in the preseason.  Besides, odds are most, if not all, of the eventual starting unit are already taking the majority of the snaps together.  It's more of a question of which side Bell/Chandler will be playing on.

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it's a shame that we are going to have to wait until spartanburg to see who wins out. that, in my book, is a fail.

 

we should be going into TC knowing who the starting OL is so they can be getting their reps and hit the ground running as a unit.

 

TC needs to be all about the OL gelling, not try outs to see who is going to be on it.

I understand what you are saying. But...they are doing a lot of shifty with Bell, and Chandler. And have even added Williams to the mix. Seems to me they are doing their best to find out who can play where so they can get it straightened out.

Or at least that is what appears to be going on. Giving both/all the guys reps to give them the opportunity to make a better decision.

Maybe by TC things will be settled. So they can actually use that time to get their sh/t together. At least that is what I am hoping is going on.

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It would obviously be great if they could spend all of TC working as a unit but it's not uncommon to have position battles going on that late in the preseason.  Besides, odds are most, if not all, of the eventual starting unit are already taking the majority of the snaps together.  It's more of a question of which side Bell/Chandler will be playing on.

 

we have it every year on the OL and it shouldn't be that way. it doesn't have to be that way.

 

we have two very questionable alternatives trying out for the right side and the left side. there is no real competition for those two guys and there needs to be. i don't think the FO wants there to be any because it seems like they have their heart set on those two guys being the solution.

 

we should be having real competition now and have spots decided by training camp. if it were more of a priority, i think we could have had that. i just think that OT is about as important a role as WR or DT during the last few fox years, as in we can throw any guy in there and do ok.

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I understand what you are saying. But...they are doing a lot of shifty with Bell, and Chandler. And have even added Williams to the mix. Seems to me they are doing their best to find out who can play where so they can get it straightened out.

Or at least that is what appears to be going on. Giving both/all the guys reps to give them the opportunity to make a better decision.

Maybe by TC things will be settled. So they can actually use that time to get their sh/t together. At least that is what I am hoping is going on.

the biggest problem, imo, is that we are relying on bell chandler, and now hopefully williams to be the solution. we are counting on two scrubs from that group of three to fill two very important roles on the OL.

 

it's quite likely that we will only have two starters on the OL with pro level experience at their position and one of them hasn't played a whole season (silatolu). that is a scary situation to be in.

 

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we have it every year on the OL and it shouldn't be that way. it doesn't have to be that way.

 

we have two very questionable alternatives trying out for the right side and the left side. there is no real competition for those two guys and there needs to be. i don't think the FO wants there to be any because it seems like they have their heart set on those two guys being the solution.

 

we should be having real competition now and have spots decided by training camp. if it were more of a priority, i think we could have had that. i just think that OT is about as important a role as WR or DT during the last few fox years, as in we can throw any guy in there and do ok.

 

It's obviously just a matter of opinion at this point but I don't think there was anyone out there that would have improved the OL (at least that we could afford).  Any money or draft picks put into the OL would have stopped us from shoring up other weak spots.  We would just be talking about the WRs being our downfall.  Hopefully there will be an aging vet or two that get cut that will be a nice stopgap for the next couple seasons.

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Williams will probably go back to starting at RT like he did back in 2010. Williams has very good lateral movement, but is vulnerable to a bull rush from bigger DEs. We need to find someone to play LT.

If this has been a problem in the past don't you think that Williams has been working on his strength.  I would think that a guy who wants to start would figure out his weaknesses and work on them.  Especially considering that the difference in salary between a starting right guard and a left tackle is likely 5 million  a year.

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the biggest problem, imo, is that we are relying on bell chandler, and now hopefully williams to be the solution. we are counting on two scrubs from that group of three to fill two very important roles on the OL.

 

it's quite likely that we will only have two starters on the OL with pro level experience at their position and one of them hasn't played a whole season (silatolu). that is a scary situation to be in.

I know this is a big sticking point with you. Well, to a lot of folks. And I hate having to say this. But...we really have to hope and pray things work out. Whether that is who we have. Or if by some unforeseen luck somebody cuts a LT and we get lucky and scoop him up.

We were decent on Offense last year. I know decent isn't what you want to hear. Maybe, with a year of growth Chandler can take LT, and Bell can hold down RT. At worse we may be decent again. At best, we get some help and make the jump to pretty good.

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I am pulling for Chandler because, in my limited opinion, he has the best upside and athleticism.   However, I am not going to declare him the answer.  Williams has no more experience at LT in the NFL.  It is starting to sound as if we are going to shop for a potential T in free agency.

 

I feel good about Bell struggling.  Better to open eyes in June than in September.  Maybe Gettlemen knows now that the answer may not be on the roster.

I feel good about Chandler manning the RT position, if he can get some movement in the run game.  I am not ruling him out as the LT.

 

I think our G situation is solid, as is C.  We could be one T away from having a damn good OL.

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If this has been a problem in the past don't you think that Williams has been working on his strength.  I would think that a guy who wants to start would figure out his weaknesses and work on them.  Especially considering that the difference in salary between a starting right guard and a left tackle is likely 5 million  a year.

 

Yes I would guess that he is stronger now.

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it's a shame that we are going to have to wait until spartanburg to see who wins out. that, in my book, is a fail.

we should be going into TC knowing who the starting OL is so they can be getting their reps and hit the ground running as a unit.

TC needs to be all about the OL gelling, not try outs to see who is going to be on it.

I agree, but this would Be an ideal situation. Sure it would be great to be at that point, but it is not as dire as some make it out to be.

Big picture, our line was shaky at best last season. We ended up 12-4. There are ways to get around a weak line. I could be wrong but I personally think the interior line is much improved than last season. Even not, we can win with the line as is. Every other position has been upgraded so there is no reason for me to think we could not repeat.

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