Another Hardy Thread....

[Jmac]

Do you think a punishment is sitting on your ass getting paid 700 grand a week? He has the Panthers by the balls.

[PntherPryd]

Ray Rice is getting his suspension appealed and will likely be reduced now the NFLPA has finally filed a grievance. He'll be on a roster within a couple weeks.

 

Aldon Smith is getting his suspension reduced for "good conduct" and will likely be playing within a couple weeks.

 

Why do you suppose throughout all of this, Hardy's name has not been mentioned?

 

 

Just a few more tidbits to stoke the fire.  Ray MacDonald still hasn't missed a game despite serious allegations that the officer responding to the incident was a personal friend and actually on the payroll of the niners.  http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_26711248/case-49ers-ray-mcdonald-illustrates-potential-conflicts-interest

 

 

Here's another story I read recently that is easy to dismiss as apples and oranges but I would argue that it is not.  Hope Solo is playing for the US National Team despite pending trial for Domestic Violence. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/22/u-s-soccer-stands-by-decision-to-allow-hope-solo-to-play-despite-domestic-violence-charges/

 

 

Clearly this is a Jerry Richardson / Panther decision not to bring Greg Hardy back or push the league office.

[CRA]

if the media created outrage in regards to Hope Solo then US Soccer wouldn't have it so easy. She is nuts too which would make it hard on them. No one gives a poo about women's soccer.

It is the media that got Hardy on this exempt list and off the field. Nothing more. Tons of guys have played with worse charges. Time changes though.

[Mr. Scot]

I don't really think Rice will be back in uniform at all.

 

He's a black eye to the NFL right now, one they'd probably move heaven and earth to make go away.

[PntherPryd]

I don't really think Rice will be back in uniform at all.

 

He's a black eye to the NFL right now, one they'd probably move heaven and earth to make go away.

 

 

I see what you did there.

 

But the NFL doesn't have final say when they sign a CBA.  The players have rights in that CBA and the NFL cannot arbitrarily decide on punishment terms based on prevailing public opinion that changes daily.

 

Yes Greg is getting paid (for now) but his future earnings are being compromised by this form of punishment that is going on outside the scope of the CBA or any agreement.  The Panthers and the league are causing him irreparable harm with this gray area limbo they have shunted him into.  If Jerry was really worried about appearances just cut him and take the cap hit.  

[Mr. Scot]

I see what you did there.

 

But the NFL doesn't have final say when they sign a CBA.  The players have rights in that CBA and the NFL cannot arbitrarily decide on punishment terms based on prevailing public opinion that changes daily.

 

Yes Greg is getting paid (for now) but his future earnings are being compromised by this form of punishment that is going on outside the scope of the CBA or any agreement.  The Panthers and the league are causing him irreparable harm with this gray area limbo they have shunted him into.  If Jerry was really worried about appearances just cut him and take the cap hit.  

 

I didn't actually do that deliberately...but yeah

[blackcat]

If Hardy didn't appeal his guilty verdict he probably would be suiting up this week. He is getting paid to sit at home and then faces 6 games suspension if it goes to trial in November and found guilty again.

 

This situation is way to complex to assume stuff like that.  He might be playing this week, but considering the way the NFL cowtowed to the media, they may have made the suspension longer for actual convictions.  Also, it would have been reckless on Hardy's part to plead guilty b/c he'd not want that to affect his future contract negotiations. 

[FugginPoo]

The Panthers not Hardy are the ones being Punished here

[Harris Aballah]

Ray Rice is getting his suspension appealed and will likely be reduced now the NFLPA has finally filed a grievance. He'll be on a roster within a couple weeks.

 

Aldon Smith is getting his suspension reduced for "good conduct" and will likely be playing within a couple weeks.

 

Why do you suppose throughout all of this, Hardy's name has not been mentioned?

Players union hates JR

[rmoneyg35]

We should boycott to get Greg Hardy back. I wonder if everyone came together and actually did something about the situation, maybe just maybe we could get Hardy back. It seems thats the only way we will see greg back in a panthers uniform anytime soon maybe at all.

[SgtJoo]

Rice is filing a grievance based on the fact that he was disciplined by the league twice for the same violation/crime, which is against the collective bargaining agreement. It's essentially like "double jeopardy" in the US court system. You can't be tried twice for the same crime.

 

It really has nothing to do with Hardy's case.

 

Also, Ray Macdonald hasn't been charged with a crime.

[rippadonn]

Hardy played week one without suspension while Rice was the guy suspended two games. How did Hardy all of a sudden become Ray Rice?. Media? If you run your team for the national media the Panthers will cease to be relevant. They never loved us and never will so why try to win some PR contest. Your fans and your team want you to win football games, championships. We don't care if the NFL loves us or ESPN loves us. We want to kick ass!

A player gets in a fight with his ex girl with a lot of he say she say no knockout or caps peeled, they both have scratches. Why let the media spin it into something else? This wasn't Ray Rice. If it's Goodell I'd be mad at the NFL for this if it's Jerry I'd once again ask him will a choir ever win a SuperBowl? Just my opinion: if another team would hire Hardy you'd be foolish to let go of a franchise player for a argument with a girl.

[SZ James (banned)]

I think Rice will be back in uniform before Hardy.

I doubt it. Nobody wants a washed up RB with conduct problems.

[CRA]

We should boycott to get Greg Hardy back. I wonder if everyone came together and actually did something about the situation, maybe just maybe we could get Hardy back. It seems thats the only way we will see greg back in a panthers uniform anytime soon maybe at all.

If Hardy is innocent....I doubt HE comes back. Not that we wouldn't want him. He isn't postioning himself to be ready IMO.