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Understanding Cam's situation

AceBoogie

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There are only 3 offensive players on the team that we've drafted since selecting Cam #1 overall in 2011. Two are rookies.

2012

Amini Silatolu

2014

Kelvin Benjamin

Trai Turner

In that same time frame 8 defensive players from those drafts remain on the roster.

The talent around No. 1 has gotten worse every year he's been in the league.

So with the team knowing he would miss virtually the entire offseason, they decided to let all of his wrs go in free agency and move the worst offensive lineman on the team to the most important position on the line.

How could you honestly sit back and judge Cam when the team has done virtually nothing to build around him. The sad thing is that Cam might actually be a bigger problem then I believe, but it's unfair to say that when the players around him are barely on a NFL talent level.

And one last thing. Greg Olsen, who is our best receiving target, has been turned into a blocker the last few weeks. So why you argue that Cam has "had good protection" realize that protection has come at a cost. No check downs and Olsen as a blocker. I've seen third downs when Bersin, Webb, and Avant were his options.

But I'm sure you're just dying to tell me how bad the salary cap is.

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Pretty frustrating, isn't it.

 

I never agree with Jamie Dukes, with one exception, his recent piece on the 'GM-itis' of the Panthers.

 

The Panthers offensively are the 'land of misfit toys (offensive players):

-- A line that features only one player Kalil who could start on any other pro team (and even he appears declining).

--old and damaged running backs that should have been cut 2 years ago

--WRs that are cast offs save one Rookie and one TE

--an OC that no one in the league wanted except Ron Rivera (yes, I know he started as a QB coach and that is where he should have stayed.

and it just isn't too hard to figure out.

 

Even with all of this, its all Newton's fault.   Newton needs to make plays when they are there and he hasn't been but to lay all of this on him, and the supposed 'whispers' in the building are ridiculous.

 

Newton appears totally demoralized and frankly, I don't blame him.  It's not like he has suddenly forgotten how to throw the football.

 

The Panthers need new blood in the offensive philosophy space.  If they don't want Cam Newton, I suspect there are about 24 other teams that do.

 

Idiots.

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*FreeFua* Grand Master

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It's been mind blowing just how little they've done to try and build around Cam.

From pissing away draft picks to signing old slow WR's that allow no room for error when being thrown to. It's been a complete mess.

History has given me little faith they'll correct any of these issues going forward. You build a team around your best player, we are doing the exact opposite.

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There are only 3 offensive players on the team that we've drafted since selecting Cam #1 overall in 2011. Two are rookies.

2012

Amini Silatolu

2014

Kelvin Benjamin

Trai Turner

In that same time frame 8 defensive players from those drafts remain on the roster.

The talent around No. 1 has gotten worse every year he's been in the league.

So with the team knowing he would miss virtually the entire offseason, they decided to let all of his wrs go in free agency and move the worst offensive lineman on the team to the most important position on the line.

How could you honestly sit back and judge Cam when the team has done virtually nothing to build around him. The sad thing is that Cam might actually be a bigger problem then I believe, but it's unfair to say that when the players around him are barely on a NFL talent level.

And one last thing. Greg Olsen, who is our best receiving target, has been turned into a blocker the last few weeks. So why you argue that Cam has "had good protection" realize that protection has come at a cost. No check downs and Olsen as a blocker. I've seen third downs when Bersin, Webb, and Avant were his options.

But I'm sure you're just dying to tell me how bad the salary cap is.

 

You do realize that Cam is actually on track to be sacked less then he was last year right?

 

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You do realize that Cam is actually on track to be sacked less then he was last year right?

He missed a game and has been pulled early from a couple others.

You can't judge an OL entirely by sacks given up with a QB like Cam. Cam's legs also help limit that number.

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