Panthers believe Hardy innocent, will try to workout extension

[IamSoClutch]

Even if he was found innocent I wouldn't want him on the team. He lives a trashy lifestyle and surrounds himself with trashy people and that's why all this happened.

I believe in second chances but not here. He needs a fresh start which he'll easily get. This team is horrible anyway I'd think he or any other potential FA would be glad to leave.

Lol you don't know talent when you see it. I guess you like sucking. Hardy is a piece of this young core we need him. With CJ getting old losing hardy would set us way back

[Matthias]

Hardy probably would have been the difference in the outcome of the Cincy game and the Seattle game.

 

With that said.....it's possible that Hardy sitting out could work to the Panthers long term benefit.  I don't see him getting 14-15 mill per year on his next contract.  What if he works out a long term deal with us that's incentive laden so it keeps the cap hit low.

 

Hindsight is 20/20.  If Hardy would have walked this off season and our D went on to under perform as it has.....people would have been calling for DG's head there too.

 

The defense has gotten a lot better once we cut Godfrey.  In both the Packers and Bengals games, which were our worst performances, Godfrey was lit up.  Other than that, our defense has played good enough that if we had a competent offense, we would have more wins.  Of course again if we let Hardy walk, we could have resigned Mitchell, and probably would have picked up a DE as well.  By giving Hardy the franchise tag, both sides of the ball suffered, but more so our offense.

[SZ James (banned)]

 

 

 

You can prove me wrong then. Everything his girlfriend said was corroborated, like it or not. That's why the judge found him guilty and that's why he will be found guilty a second time by a jury that doesn't know what the NFL is. An NC jury will only see a 300 pound black man and a defenseless white woman with evidence of assault.

 

Unless you mean he hasn't been found guilty. Hard to tell by your .gif. Which, either you haven't been paying attention, or you are still confused about the legal process. Either way, you're wrong. I'm glad you managed some pie though. 

[TheMaulClaw]

The defense has gotten a lot better once we cut Godfrey.  In both the Packers and Bengals games, which were our worst performances, Godfrey was lit up.  Other than that, our defense has played good enough that if we had a competent offense, we would have more wins.  Of course again if we let Hardy walk, we could have resigned Mitchell, and probably would have picked up a DE as well.  By giving Hardy the franchise tag, both sides of the ball suffered, but more so our offense.

 

I understand what you're trying to say....but you do realize the absence of Hardy is the main reason we're so terrible on 3rd down right?

 

Giving Hardy the franchise tag wasn't the reason our D suffered.  The absence of Hardy is why our D suffered. 

 

Mitchell would be exposed without a pass rush my friend. 

 

As far as the O goes....there were mistakes made there.  Specifically at tackle.  However unless we completely ignored the D there wasn't a great tackle available anyway in FA.  Do you think Anthony Collins is the difference in our record?

[PantherMan89]

We can't duscuss contracts with him until after the season though correct? Thought that was the case for franchise players. If so why he take a deal after the season without seeing what he could get on the open market first?

[JawnyBlaze]

You can prove me wrong then. Everything his girlfriend said was corroborated, like it or not. That's why the judge found him guilty and that's why he will be found guilty a second time by a jury that doesn't know what the NFL is. An NC jury will only see a 300 pound black man and a defenseless white woman with evidence of assault.

 

Unless you mean he hasn't been found guilty. Hard to tell by your .gif. Which, either you haven't been paying attention, or you are still confused about the legal process. Either way, you're wrong. I'm glad you managed some pie though. 

 

Apparently you're confused about the legal process.  Because right now he's innocent.  The farce trial is wiped away when appealed as if it never happened in NC.  I'm not searching for something that's been quoted and pasted numerous times here already, but that's how the fuged up trial system works in NC.  The bench trial plays it safe, and the real decision comes on appeal. 

 

As to everything being corroborated if my memory serves me, the only thing corroborated was her "friend" (who testified for the defense by the way, doesn't speak well for the prosecution) said she heard a ruckus.  She didn't see anything.  She heard a ruckus.  There were no actual witnesses.  Just someone who heard some noise.  The coked up chick admitted in court the only thing that happened to her was she broke a nail for fug's sake.  Which, by the way, she probably broke swinging her shoe at Hardy.  Hardy's story is the one with plenty of corroboration.  It would take a helluva incompetent defense lawyer to lose this case.

 

[Kevin Greene]

Zod says the general consensus of everyone he's talked to is Hardy will not be here next year.

I believe that is the correct call.

[bandu]

An NC jury will only see a 300 pound black man and a defenseless white woman with evidence of assault.

if thats all you or one might choose too see.well then shame on THEM!

[Matthias]

I understand what you're trying to say....but you do realize the absence of Hardy is the main reason we're so terrible on 3rd down right?

 

Giving Hardy the franchise tag wasn't the reason our D suffered.  The absence of Hardy is why our D suffered. 

 

Mitchell would be exposed without a pass rush my friend. 

 

As far as the O goes....there were mistakes made there.  Specifically at tackle.  However unless we completely ignored the D there wasn't a great tackle available anyway in FA.  Do you think Anthony Collins is the difference in our record?

 

We could have signed Veldheer at LT.  That would have made us significantly better than we are now.  Could have re-signed Ted Ginn.  Giving us an experienced deep threat, while also maintaining our return game.  Of course we foolishly let Smitty go.  Our offense would have soared if we have done those things.  As for replacing Hardy, we could have picked up another DE that would give us some pass rush, but more so a stabilizing force on the line.  Mitchell without a pass rush is miles better than Harper without one.  Ultimately, I don't think our defense would have been a big problem. (Minus Godfrey.  Even with Hardy, our defense would still suck with Godfrey in there.)  

[Kuech the Sneak]

Before all this legal poo went down I wanted to go with hardy and ealy just because of CJs age/cap hit. We'll have to wait and see what happens now I guess

[Diehardpanther02]

Hopefully this will be what he needs to get his head on straight and use this as motivation.

[SOJA]

lol bleacher report 

[TheMaulClaw]

We could have signed Veldheer at LT.  That would have made us significantly better than we are now.  Could have re-signed Ted Ginn.  Giving us an experienced deep threat, while also maintaining our return game.  Of course we foolishly let Smitty go.  Our offense would have soared if we have done those things.  As for replacing Hardy, we could have picked up another DE that would give us some pass rush, but more so a stabilizing force on the line.  Mitchell without a pass rush is miles better than Harper without one.  Ultimately, I don't think our defense would have been a big problem. (Minus Godfrey.  Even with Hardy, our defense would still suck with Godfrey in there.)  

 

So your telling me that all the injuries along the interior line and RB wouldn't have affected anything?   You'd let Hardy walk for Veldheer and Ginn?  While I like Ginn go look at his catches this year. Remember Philly's was doing well at WR until he got hurt too.  I like Mitchell too, wish we could have kept him.....no way I'm choosing him over Hardy though and quite honestly Mitchell got overpaid. 

 

Had we known Hardy wasn't going to play what you're saying makes the most sense.  DG has made some mistakes.  I'm not blaming him for Hardy's situation though...the guy doesn't have a crystal ball.

[shelbypanther]

He's gone, no matter the outcome.  Imagine him in BAL with Suggs or in DEN with Ware.