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Is John Fox trying to talk his way out of Denver?


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The Jay Glazer report that Fox might be fired if he lost the Colts game - which the Broncos later denied - had me wondering yesterday.  It's well known that Glazer and Fox are friends, so Fox planting a seed with Glazer wouldn't exactly be a shock.

 

And now there's this from Gantt...

 

It probably shouldn’t come as a surprise that we have varying reports on John Fox’s job security right before we have varying reports about the health of his quarterback.

And because of his background, the idea that Fox himself might be thinking about an endgame outside of Denver shouldn’t be considered so farfetched.

 

When it became obvious that Panthers owner Jerry Richardson wasn’t going to give him a contract extension during or after the 2009 season, those close to Fox were willing to listen to others. And at least one other team talked to those people, to the point it was believed Fox could have had the job if Richardson had fired him.

But in the days preceding a lockout he helped orchestrate, Richardson wasn’t about to pay two coaching staffs, so Fox was stuck with a boss and a roster he didn’t want.

 

Fox was so unhappy with the hand he was dealt, that when Clausen was injured in midseason, he made a statement that bordered on mutiny. They had signed journeyman Brian St. Pierre off the street to serve as an emergency backup, but Fox started him that week against the Ravens rather than play rookie Tony Pike, whom he didn’t think could play at all. St. Pierre, days removed from changing diapers, threw an 88-yard touchdown pass that day (which traveled about 35 yards in the air) and his arm was so sore the next morning he never played another down.

The decision to start St. Pierre was made without the input of anyone else in the organization, most of whom were shocked to hear that Fox pulled the trigger. In fact, it caused then-General Manager Marty Hurney to cut short a scouting trip to Alabama (hey, that’s where Cam Newton was) to come back to attempt damage control.

 

So if there’s some doubt as to whether Peyton Manning wants to come back, or will be able to come back, it’s worth thinking about Fox’s role in his own future. If the Broncos wanted to use the lure of trusted offensive coordinator Adam Gase to entice Manning to play another year, they might be willing to think about offering Fox to another team in exchange for some compensation.

And faced with the idea of going into another season without a known commodity at quarterback, Fox likely doesn’t mind the teams with vacancies knowing he might become available.

 

Full Story: Fox's background worth noting with his future up in the air

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Interesting article.  I did find this quote ridiculous though.

 

 

(Granted, the next team he worked for had The Golden Calf of Bristol, but it’s easy enough to make the case that The Golden Calf of Bristol was an upgrade over what he had in Carolina in 2010.)

 

 

Clausen is debatable, but Matt Moore is definitely a better qb than Timmy T. 

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There was little doubt that Fox phoned it in that year.

 

Truth be told, I think he believes he's a much better coach than he actually is.

 

He doesn't talk the ego talk like Rex Ryan does, but his actions though...

 

I think Rivera thinks he's a better coach than he actually is

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There was little doubt that Fox phoned it in that year.

 

Truth be told, I think he believes he's a much better coach than he actually is.

 

He doesn't talk the ego talk like Rex Ryan does, but his actions though...

Him and Byron Bell are a lot alike. One of the worse at their jobs, think they're one of the best at their jobs. They should both move on to the same team in the offseason. It would be a match made in heaven.

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What could he gain by planting a seed that he would be let go if he lost. I'm not really following that angle.

 

From the article...

 

And faced with the idea of going into another season without a known commodity at quarterback, Fox likely doesn’t mind the teams with vacancies knowing he might become available.

 

"Getting his name out there" I suppose you'd say. 

 

The hope would be that teams which are already in the midst of head coaching searches would pause and say "Hang on, we might just have a shot at John Fox".

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I dont understand any of the article tbh - sounds like someone is trying to create some drama

 

I'd say it centers around the uncertainty with Peyton.

 

Think of it this way: If you knew you were about to go from coaching a team with Peyton Manning at the helm to coaching one with Brock Osweiler in charge, would you be good with that or do you think you might start exploring escape routes?

 

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