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If he's at 25, can Gettleman pass on DGB?

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"You can't coach 6-5, 240."  - Dave Gettleman

 

So let's start with the elephant in the room; DGB's character. He's had multiple run-ins and issues since leaving high school, such as Possession of Weed (2012, 2014) and breaking into his ex-girlfriends house, and although he wasn't arrested. Led to his dismissal from Mizzou. 

 

It's easy to see why we would dismiss as someone we'd never draft, especially with Gettleman's equally quotable "Who wants a ticking time bomb?" line, but if you look at what Gettleman likes, and our team needs, and how the league seems to be trending towards bigger, athletic WRs, Green-Beckham at 25 seems increasingly likely.

 

OU's proday just passed, and DGB put on a show. Measuring it at 6'5 and weighing in at 237, he's not too far off from last years pick, Kelvin Benjamin in terms of measurables, but that's where the comparisons end. . Green-Beckham is a natural fluid athlete at WR. Soft hands, good strength, attacks the ball and can catch anything in a certain radius of him.He's also quite speedy and agile for a WR his size, and has ability to be a down-field threat and the ability to get YAC.  He was born to be a Wide Receiver, and he has all the tools and skills to be an Elite #1. 

 

As I mentioned earlier, bigger bodied, physical WRs are the trend now. Ever since Jeffery/Marshall dominaited the leauge a couple of years back, teams have looked to mimic that (Example: The Bucs), much akin to how a lot of teams tried to copy the two TE sets that NE ran and was unstoppable for a while. Kelvin and Dorial would compliment each other nicely, both towering over most DBs and the ability to make strong, possessive catches that would frustrate OCs. Toss in the fact we have a third reliable big body target in Olsen. Can you imagine three 6'5 receivers? 

 

Now there's still a few things to touch on. DGB is no doubt trending up. Will he even be there or will some team chance him before 25? How has he interviews with teams and has he really changed? Or is he still a "Ticking time bomb."

 

You look at a player who was in a much similar situation to DGB in Dez Bryant. Who was suspended for most of the OSU Cowboy's season, blasted with character concerns, and fell all the way to 24, despite having top 5 talent. And needless to say it's worked out for the Cowboys since then, with some minor backfires involving Bryant's attitude, but, despite being very much a risk, he's turned out to be one of the best WRs in the nfl.

 

On the other side of the coin, there's players like Josh Gordon and Justin Blackmon, and despite Blackmon not being as obvious as a time bomb as Gordon, both of them have hurt their teams more than helped them with constant suspensions and substance abuse, despite having the talent to be elite WRs. Blackmon was a top 5 pick, and Gordon cost the Browns a 2nd rounder in the supplemental draft.

 

The above one is more concerning for DGB than one would expect. As mentioned, he was arrested for possession of Marijuana twice. And both times it was a large amount. I don't want to low this out of proportion, especially since I have zero problem with recreational weed use, but some players don't know control. What happens if he gets paid and he goes down the Gordon/Blackmon route?

 

But it comes down to talent, and maturity. Prrsonally, I think a lot of his "concerns" are immature, childish mistakes, and he'll grow from them. And as the for the former, DGB has that in spades. 

 

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If you listened to Gettleman's comments before the Combine about the ticking time bomb, then you'd know that drafting DGB is almost nil.  

 

Let me say this however, if they bring him in for a workout there is hope. If they don't, you can pretty much forget about that ghost of a dream.

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DGB is a very talented player, and if we base the decision purely on the field ability, then he would be an excellent draft choice. However, the character concerns would make that selection problematic and very risky.

But it comes down to whether DGB has learned from his mistakes and regrets them, and will be a better man because of them and won't repeat them [eg Cam, Dez etc], or whether he hasn't learned from them and is a time bomb waiting to go off [eg Blackmon, Gordon].

That's the risk you take with players like this. If he's there, he would be hard to pass on because him and Benjamin would form a heck of a duo on the field if DGB stays out of trouble. However, I think he'll be gone at that point or we'll pass on him.

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DGB is a very talented player, and if we base the decision purely on the field ability, then he would be an excellent draft choice. However, the character concerns would make that selection problematic and very risky.

But it comes down to whether DGB has learned from his mistakes and regrets them, and will be a better man because of them and won't repeat them [eg Cam, Dez etc], or whether he hasn't learned from them and is a time bomb waiting to go off [eg Blackmon, Gordon].

That's the risk you take with players like this. If he's there, he would be hard to pass on because him and Benjamin would form a heck of a duo on the field if DGB stays out of trouble. However, I think he'll be gone at that point or we'll pass on him.

Comparing Cam and DGB... smdh.

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Player after player after player "Yeah, he's made stupid decision after stupid decision all his life, but we can totes trust him now when he's going to be putting millions of $$$ in his bank account!"

...while taking him out of a structured environment and giving him complete freedom.

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As I say in every DGB thread. Jerry Richardson walked in and ripped Randy Moss' s name off the draft board in front of everyone

Well there you have it. I don't know for sure that the Big Cat will do that with DGB but it sounds likely. I do wonder how often he has done that though.
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