Shockey, Olsen and Tolbert.. Why did we get away from getting those level of guys?

[PanthersUnited]

Benwekere, Philly Brown, Josh Norman.

Right, and I acknowledge Gman can draft like a mofo, didnt dispute that whatsoever, still shouldnt stop him from going after true mid level guys

[t96]

Man just please stop making a fool of yourself. This is a big man's game and you're much too short.

[PanthersUnited]

Man just please stop making a fool of yourself. This is a big man's game and you're much too short.

Ok seriously?' Say what you will about my posts, you can disagree with them but atleast they are thought out and articulate and not just the random one sentence threads that criticize without backing it up with any kind of argument

[Donald LaFell]

Tolbert fell in our lap he took a paycut to come here, the bears were stupid, and i'm pretty sure Chud was a coach at miami when shockey was there.

Also, cap room.

Oher could easily end up being a Shockey for us.

[hepcat]

Everybody needs a good poinding from time to time

[Bj-Monster23]

Lawd

[nosuchthingasapanther]

i can remember a lot of people questioning both the shockey and tolbert signings.

[Pox 08]

Money.

 

for nothing?

 

 

 

and.............  chicks..........for free?

[PantherPhann89]

I'd say so we don't end up like the Saints. We have a good core, we just need guys that can compliment them.

[bigskypanthersguy]

I'm reserving judgment until preseason hits, and furthermore, you should probably be pretty excited for next year when we're in a lot better financial shape.  Sometimes you gotta struggle for months or years to get something really great.

[t96]

Ok seriously?' Say what you will about my posts, you can disagree with them but atleast they are thought out and articulate and not just the random one sentence threads that criticize without backing it up with any kind of argument

 

I've backed it up and made my argument. Numerous times. I've gotten tired of it because you keep posting the same damn thing over and over again.

[TheNewStandard]

Tolbert was hurt this last season and the team suffered because of it. he was known as one of the top fullbacks when we brought Jim in from SD and he proved that. he is a shadow of his former self now and it will take some serious work for him to be what we need him to be.

Shocked was a locker room nightmare and sideline crybaby before he got dragged around the league and when we finally got him in here, he was a changed man. his new attitude rubbed off on Olsen and the rest is history.

Losing the Kraken demoralized our entire defense because he was the swag-master and came up with the monsters incorporated that gelled our wntire defense into a wrecking-crew. now it's Luke, TD and Stormin' Norman's job to get that kind of identity back. will it happen? well it sure looked like it started to sink in during the second-half of the season.

it's a slippery slope, chemistry is...either you have it or you don't...I think we had it, lost it, and then got it back again. thank heavens because when bad morale seeps in it's hard to get out of the funk.

We need a good draft with thick skinned and talented headstrong players and I can promise you this team will take a major step forward to being that dominant force from years past.

[SOJA]

Exactly, and we dont do creative things like that. Work up a trade for a true impact player. Damn Shockey was so solid for us his short time here. He was a good blocking TE, didnt he have like a broken finger and concussion at the same time that year and still played the next week. Our offense was so bad ass then

 

 

 

we lucked into that trade big time 

[SOJA]

he put in his initial post, how did you happen to oversee that

 

 

I should have clarified , we completely lucked into the Olsen trade because Chicago panicked. It was dumb luck, not the result of being a "go-getter"