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I am on Bre shad Perriman's bandwagon

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Yards Per Catch, Last Year in School

29.29 - Stephen Hill (#1 in NCAA)

28.21 - Devin Smith (#1 in NCAA)

24.19 - Phillip Dorsett (#2 in NCAA)

21.79 - Sammie Coates (#4 in NCAA)

20.88 - Perriman (#6 NCAA)

Hill is also like Perriman in that Hill was projected 1st-early 2nd R just like Perriman, and ended up going in the 11th pick of the 2nd Round...the 6th WR taken after:

Justin Blackmon (#5 overall)

Michael Floyd (#13 overall)

Kendall Wright (#20 overall)

A. J. Jenkins (#30 overall)

Brian Quick (#33 overall)

Hill is taller (6-4) with a better vertical (39 1/2) and ran a 4.36 at the Combine. He's more like Jaelen Strong in that regard

per his NFL.com scouting report, Hill sounds like Perriman in that Hill "dropped as many big balls as he made big plays" and is "a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn't reliable" and that Hill "could be the sleeper of this year's draft."

Hill sounds a lot like Devin Smith, etc in that:

"Hill's value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. ... his speed makes him a serious deep-threat option in the NFL...he ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech, and teams won't be able to utilize him for much more than go routes at this point in his career...Though it's risky to throw early comparisons of Hall-of-Fame-caliber players...Hill could remind some of Randy Moss when it comes to running a pure, one-on-one deep route."

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537

 

Loose comparisons can be attributed to just about every receiver, but when you dig a little deeper, then you will start to see the differences.  

 

Hill was a vertical-only receiver that looked more like a track star than a football player. His last year was his only claim to fame.
Though Perriman had a good last season as well, he also made a good accounting of himself the year before, as well as a little noise his freshman year (while improving every year). Ironically, he is a track star that pays football, but unlike Hill who looks uncomfortable at times, Perriman looks very fluid and athletic. Greg Cosell said that his stature and movements reminds him of Julio Jones, and no one has made any such claim about the more gangling Hill.  It's like natural versus forced. That being said, the real similarity unfortunately for Perriman are drops.  If you listened to Gil Brandt however, drops were not a problem yesterday.  
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Stephen Hill is also huge and super fast. Can Perriman do the other things that are necessary to become a go-to wide receiver? How is his route running?

Being an athletic freak is one thing, but we've seen time and time again that those traits don't always translate to being a productive NFL player.

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Wasn't one of the main complaints about our receiving corp last year all the dropped passes?

Now throw Ted Ginn in the frame and then you have the possibility of Stephen Hill making the roster if we carry six wide outs.... Oh and Kelvin.

Perriman is a dangerous pick. He has the ability to be the best wide out in the class but he also has the ability to flake.

If we were set at the wide receiver position I'd be all for Perriman, but right now we need reliable candidates for Cam and Strong fits the bill much more than Perriman does.

Some times the safe play is the smart play.

And for what it's worth, Perriman's game speed doesn't look even close to being 4.2esque. There are guys running him down in straight line sprints in his highlight videos.

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This is great news. I love to see players like him getting the hype.

 

We have a lot of picks this year. And when guys like him get extra hype, it throws off other teams draft strategies.... ensuring that we get quality in all rounds. We could easily get "1st round" talents in the 2nd/ 3rd round.

 

His speed is impressive... but we need guys with sure hands. I wouldn't be against drafting him, because of the obvious, but the more guys like this ascend up the board, the better our entire draft looks

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I don't know what they showed you, but it wasn't twice as much. Benjamin was over 9% while Perriman was over 12% (closer to 13, maybe). I know that number didn't come from all his plays, just a sample if I am not mistaken.

Dawg, if you really like this guy, you don't want me on your bandwagon.

Over the last few years, the Panthers have spent first round picks on several guys whom I've had concerns about. So frankly, my being worried about this kid is probably a good sign for him.

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I don't know what they showed you, but it wasn't twice as much. Benjamin was over 9% while Perriman was over 12% (closer to 13, maybe). I know that number didn't come from all his plays, just a sample if I am not mistaken.

I pulled info from this site.  Seems like they have pretty accurate info, but I could be wrong.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/

It looks like they calculate the drop % off of total number of targets to drops.  145 targets, 10 drops, drop percentage of 6.9%.  According to Rotoworld, Perriman was around 12.9% in 2014, but maybe it was calculated a different way?  12.9% is a pretty scary percentage of drops, but I've not followed him at all, nor have I watched any game film... still scary tho.

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