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Cam Newton Healthy, Confident

Jeremy Igo

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Jeremy, you know me well enough to know I don't bullshit when it comes to accolades.  You, my friend, need to be a full time reporter.  This full article was fantastic.  You do a fantastic job with this message board.  The price is a bargain.  Thanks for what you do.

​Honestly this is the reason I didn't hesitate when it came to going All-Pro.  I don't post.  I don't contribute.  But I spend hours each day reading quality information here that's so good I felt bad about getting it for free.  This place is great, and has been my main time sink since I found it years ago.  

 

So..Yes..Thank you for what you do, it is greatly appreciated.  

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Ed Dickson told me personally Cam was the toughest player he'd ever played with, and credits him for wanting to stay.  Who wouldn't want to be a part of the greatest dynasty of the salary cap era right?  Other 31-prepare thy anus.

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The point you made that I find most interesting (and it makes perfect sense), was the connection between his foot injury to the high throws--pre and post surgery, it was a problem.  High throws are all about the feet--not stepping into the throw, attempting to compensate for the lack of power with the arm alone.  Accuracy always suffers.  I connect that with the accuracy on the deep ball, something he has not had for a year or two.  Hmmm. 

Now we have a stable full of burners who can get deep (Brown, Funchess, Ginn, Hill).  The line has improved. 

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Another thing--this is probably why Cam has not signed a new deal yet.  If I were his agent, I would not encourage him to enter his biggest contract negotiations after a year where he was hurt most of the time.  If I were Gettlemen, I would not want to pay a man $23m per season until I had seen consistent play. 

If Cam has a great season, DG has no problem writing a check for $22-25m--he has been positioning the roster so he can do that.  Both sides want 2015 to show them what the actually have in Cam Newton. 

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​Thanks, I know I am not much of a writer. Was never a strong suit of mine even in highschool. But hopefully people can get some enjoyment out of their pedestrian nature. lol

I to appreciate your hard work, and the unique insight and perspective you bring to Huddle.

In your opinion,  why is Cams health in contrast to last season  not a bigger story from the national sports writers when analyzing the Panthers 2015 prospect of success? 

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