Panthers PFF Grades - Offense

[Jeremy Igo]

This week's offensive grades from PFF highlight why their grading system should be taken with a very large grain of salt. One only needs to see Cam Newton with a negative grade to realize they are very subjective and lack context in the grading. 

 

Offensive summary

			Play Counts					Ratings
Pos.	#	Name	Total	Run	Pass	Run Block	Pass Block	Overall	Pass	Rush	Pass Block	Screen Block	Run Block	Penalty	# of Pen	QB Sk	QB Ht	QB Hu
								-2.4	-3.1	1.3	3.8	0.0	-5.2	0.8	2-0	1	0	7
LG	68	Andrew Norwell *	78	0	0	32	46	3.9			1.9	0.0	1.8	0.2	0-0
LWR	10	Philly Brown *	60	0	39	21	0	1.0	0.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.1	0-0
RT	74	Mike Remmers *	78	0	0	32	46	1.0			1.8	0.0	-0.1	-0.7	1-0			1
RG	70	Trai Turner *	76	0	0	31	45	0.8			0.8	0.0	-0.2	0.2	0-0			1
TE-L	88	Greg Olsen *	78	0	42	32	4	0.8	0.7	0.0	0.2	0.0	-0.3	0.2	0-0
SLWR	82	Jerricho Cotchery	11	0	5	6	0	0.3	0.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0-0
C	67	Ryan Kalil *	78	0	0	32	46	0.1			0.1	0.0	-0.1	0.1	0-0			1
TE-R	86	Brandon D. Williams	3	0	1	2	0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0-0
RG	79	Chris Scott	2	0	0	1	1	0.0			0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0-0
HB	43	Fozzy Whittaker	4	1	1	0	2	-0.1	0.0	-0.2	0.1	0.0	0.0	0.0	0-0
LWR	17	Devin Funchess	38	0	21	17	0	-0.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.1	0-0
RWR	81	Kevin Norwood	13	0	8	5	0	-0.3	-0.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5	0.0	0-0
HB	28	Jonathan C. Stewart *	56	17	20	7	12	-0.4	-0.4	-0.8	0.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0-0
QB	1	Cam Newton *	78	6	46	26	0	-0.4	-2.2	1.7	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.1	1-0	1
RWR	19	Ted Ginn *	49	0	32	17	0	-1.2	-1.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.1	0-0
FB	35	Mike Tolbert	28	5	7	10	6	-1.2	0.4	0.6	-0.6	0.0	-1.6	0.0	0-0			1
LT	73	Michael Oher *	78	0	0	32	46	-2.5			-0.2	0.0	-2.6	0.3	0-0			2
TE-R	84	Ed Dickson *	50	0	14	20	16	-4.0	-0.4	0.0	-1.1	0.0	-2.6	0.1	0-0			1

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[MedellinHeel]

Cam has been inconsistent in my eyes. He will have a couple bad drives then a couple good ones. Need to see more consistency from him. 

[Donald LaFell]

Cam has had a few issues but it's far outweighed by the good. 

If he had an an amazing supporting cast or if he was not pulling through when we needed it'd be a different story. I'd be a lot harder on him. As it stands he's carrying the team. 

[O-Ther]

Considering we played a defense that saw Clowney's best game as a pro, ILB Cushing return to his pre-injury form, S Rahim Moore and OLB Mercilus also being graded in Houston's top 5, all time great NT and toilet clogger extraordinaire Vince Wilfork, and JJ Watt, the only defensive player in the league better than Luke (dammit!), I'm glad we were able to get 170+ yards rushing and a couple of 25+ yard touchdowns.

The Stains defense isn't nearly that good, and I'm looking forward to a repeat of the 41-10 beatdown we gave them last year 

Edited September 22, 2015 by O-Ther

[GoobyPls]

Why do people use PFF as some sort of legitimate source? Their grading system is retarded 

 

Apparently the O-line did good even though Cam was getting his arm hit every other pass, and they deduct those points on Cam's grade,

[Ornias]

If Cam would learn to catch the ball his grades would be much higher. 

[Jesse]

I think PFF grades aren't the end-all to prove an argument or whatever, but they at least they try to quantify people's performance.

That being said, I thought our offensive line had a pretty damn good game against a stout defensive line -- one of the best we'll see all season.

[SOJA]

so Mike Remmers had himself a day

[CarolinaSock]

Cam was very inconsistent. He had a few very well thrown balls, but more than his share of badly thrown ones as well. He did not move in the pocket well at all as he had room to step up several times on those throws he was hit on. 

[TheRed]

Cam was very inconsistent. He had a few very well thrown balls, but more than his share of badly thrown ones as well. He did not move in the pocket well at all as he had room to step up several times on those throws he was hit on. 

3 touchdowns (would have been 4 if not for the drop that turned into a pick), 271 total yards, and numerous first down scrambles (he was also our leading rusher) against one of the better defenses in the league.

I don't honestly know what game some of you guys are watching. Without Newton, we would not have won. It's that simple.

Edited September 22, 2015 by TheRed

[CarolinaSock]

3 touchdowns (would have been 4 if not for the drop that turned into a pick), 271 total yards, and numerous first down scrambles (he was also our leading rusher) against one of the better defenses in the league.

I don't honestly know what game some of you guys are watching. Without Newton, we would not have won. It's that simple.

What does any of that have to do with what I said? Just because you throw a touchdown  pass you can't be considered inconsistent and moved poorly in the pocket? Strange our receivers don't  get the same treatment for drops when they catch a touchdown, people will still harp on the drops. 

[dpm0409]

3 touchdowns (would have been 4 if not for the drop that turned into a pick), 271 total yards, and numerous first down scrambles (he was also our leading rusher) against one of the better defenses in the league.

I don't honestly know what game some of you guys are watching. Without Newton, we would not have won. It's that simple.i'M 

I agree with this 100%.  The most important stat is the W folks. TheRed is right, can Cam be more consistent?  Sure, but dang it's depressing getting on here sometimes....

[TheRed]

What does any of that have to do with what I said? Just because you throw a touchdown  pass you can't be considered inconsistent and moved poorly in the pocket? Strange our receivers don't  get the same treatment for drops when they catch a touchdown, people will still harp on the drops. 

You want to talk about our WR's eh? Our current #1 WR has 95 yards, that puts him right at 67th in the NFL. Behind 6 running backs.

Now tell me more about how our franchise quarterback is inconsistent.

[tondi]

Take out the first few drives and he would probably be positive.