The #2 we let get away.

[chknwing]

[Fox007]

The Saints are the all time stat padding team in the history of the NFL...mole man loves his stats whether he wins or loses.

I remember in one game where we were beating them he went for a short completion instead of trying to score because he was within a few yards and 1 completion away from an NFL record.

 

 

[top dawg]

I suggest you take a gander at the second post I made.

Haters? You created the thread, people are going to question your logic. You're a big boy, you can handle it.

Now, as far as Snead's time here, I don't think less than 45 days on our practice squad would necessarily qualify as a "mistake", but more of not the right fit at the right time. You can't just overlook all the factors that came into play at that time. We didn't sign him during training camp, it was 3 games into our season when he reached our practice squad. He had zero playing time in the NFL at the time, and zero familiarity with our offense. Even if you look beyond all that, if we elevated him from the practice squad last year, whose spot on the 53 man roster would he have been taking?

The fact remains that we let him go, regardless of situation or time, or whatever.

The whose-spot he-would-have-been-taking argument just fills me with mirth. It always does. I will leave that answer for blind visionaries to ponder.  

Gman is my guy. I just don't sniff his shorts like many of y'all. We all fug up. No one is 100 percent perfect. I just hate that it happened in this situation. 

As for referencing my scouting abilities, which is a straw man argument (especailly as it pertains to this thread), I didn't know Willie Snead would be breaking out right about now. I can't even say that I've ever even mentioned they guy on the Huddle before. I have mentioned Brandon Coleman and Brandin Cooks (though with a little skepticism peppered with some praise), and Snead is outshining them at the moment. But, of course, I am not paid to scout, coach or manage a football team, so there is really no way I could have seen Snead coming. Perhaps Proehl saw it, or some other Panthers' official, but was overruled by higher ups. Maybe no one saw it. I don't know. I do know that I hate to see Snead doing for the Saints what he could be doing for us, and I do know that I don't want it to happen again when we are so needy at a position. And that's really the point.

All the useless garbage about my ego and scouting abilities just really about something other than this thread. But, like you said, I'm a big boy and, like it or not, this big boy has been right about many things, much more than I've been wrong. Oops, that is my ego. But, I could really give two shits because I know, just as well as you, that we all have our egos. Let's just address that discussion when it's more apropos to do so. 

[ceetank]

Didn't this dude drop a crucial sideline catch against us week 3? He's nothing special.

[top dawg]

Didn't this dude drop a crucial sideline catch against us week 3? He's nothing special.

Don't know and don't care. May not be nothing special, but who is?  I wish we had him now, special or not.

[SmokinwithWilly]

The second guy could be Gary Barnidge. Played here for years, now in Cleveland lighting it up. Sometimes players just don't fit a system.

[top dawg]

you should have put "the #2 we let get away".... "the 2 that we let get away" is very ambiguous

OK, for those more literal, I will change it.

[PhillyB]

maybe its just me but i think everyone is missing what OP is saying here, which is simply that a guy we had on our practice squad ended up on someone else's starting lineup and is making a name for himself. haven't we been crowing about ryan delaire all week even though he's put up significantly less number than snead? how's that any different?

acknowledging snead's production juxtaposed against our lack of it at WR doesn't have to be some hardassed assessment of dave gettleman, and in this case it isn't.

[csx]

maybe its just me but i think everyone is missing what OP is saying here, which is simply that a guy we had on our practice squad ended up on someone else's starting lineup and is making a name for himself. haven't we been crowing about ryan delaire all week even though he's put up significantly less number than snead? how's that any different?

acknowledging snead's production juxtaposed against our lack of it at WR doesn't have to be some hardassed assessment of dave gettleman, and in this case it isn't.

The Gettleman angle came directly from the topic starter. 

Snead is looking solid. That doesnt mean he looked like that when here or that he could look like that for us. Maybe he could. Maybe he found some coaches he meshes with. Not every talent is a fit everywhere.

[TheRed]

The fact remains that we let him go, regardless of situation or time, or whatever.

The whose-spot he-would-have-been-taking argument just fills me with mirth. It always does. I will leave that answer for blind visionaries to ponder.  

Gman is my guy. I just don't sniff his shorts like many of y'all. We all fug up. No one is 100 percent perfect. I just hate that it happened in this situation. 

As for referencing my scouting abilities, which is a straw man argument (especailly as it pertains to this thread), I didn't know Willie Snead would be breaking out right about now. I can't even say that I've ever even mentioned they guy on the Huddle before. I have mentioned Brandon Coleman and Brandin Cooks (though with a little skepticism peppered with some praise), and Snead is outshining them at the moment. But, of course, I am not paid to scout, coach or manage a football team, so there is really no way I could have seen Snead coming. Perhaps Proehl saw it, or some other Panthers' official, but was overruled by higher ups. Maybe no one saw it. I don't know. I do know that I hate to see Snead doing for the Saints what he could be doing for us, and I do know that I don't want it to happen again when we are so needy at a position. And that's really the point.

All the useless garbage about my ego and scouting abilities just really about something other than this thread. But, like you said, I'm a big boy and, like it or not, this big boy has been right about many things, much more than I've been wrong. Oops, that is my ego. But, I could really give two shits because I know, just as well as you, that we all have our egos. Let's just address that discussion when it's more apropos to do so. 

Well, you keep ranting about "short sniffers" in response to any sort of argument for some reason, so it's hard for you to try to play the victim.

Anyways, so are you planning on actually countering my post that directly addressed Snead's current yardage totals?

[KSpan]

Few people may remember this guy when he was on our practice squad. 

But my memory is long when it comes to receivers (surprise, surprise)!

Some may believe that this is Snead's 15 minutes under the sun, or that he is just making noise due to the Saints lack at the position , but Willie Snead is doing his thing on the big stage of the NFL. He has put on a little weight, runs excellent routes, has excellent hands, surprisingly fights for every ball, and is arguably Drew Brees' favorite receiver. Perhaps Brandin Cooks is enough to take pressure away (not really), but Snead is the leading receiver on the Saints right now.  

Amazing, isn't it? A diamond in the rough found by our very own Dave Gettleman, but one thrown back in the mud while we kept the industrial grade stones only good for applications in those cheap glass cutters that you can buy at the dollar store. 

Willie Snead the Fourth could have been our next Victor Cruz...maybe...Let's make sure that someone like Damiere Byrd isn't the next Willie Snead.

 

 

Keary Colbert looked pretty good in 2004 as well.  If Snead is any good in 2017 (nothing against him - best of luck to him) then you can bump this.  As of right now, however, he's right up there with Chansey Stuckey and Kevin Ogletree in terms of track record of success.

[TheRed]

maybe its just me but i think everyone is missing what OP is saying here, which is simply that a guy we had on our practice squad ended up on someone else's starting lineup and is making a name for himself. haven't we been crowing about ryan delaire all week even though he's put up significantly less number than snead? how's that any different?

acknowledging snead's production juxtaposed against our lack of it at WR doesn't have to be some hardassed assessment of dave gettleman, and in this case it isn't.

It's all about context really. It's not an unworthy discussion.

The Gettleman jock sniffer responses to other posters from the OP kind of shows there's a little more at play here than "aw shucks, we missed out on this guy".

[LinvilleGorge]

The second guy could be Gary Barnidge. Played here for years, now in Cleveland lighting it up. Sometimes players just don't fit a system.

The guy is 30 years old and is now in his 3rd season away from Carolina.  One third of his career receiving yardage and one half of his career TDs have come in this season's four games.  It's not like the minute he left Charlotte he became an All-Pro TE.  Either the light bulb finally came on for him late in his career or these last four games have been a fluke.  Not sure which, but based on the last two seasons, leaving the Panthers had nothing to do with it.

[LinvilleGorge]

Keary Colbert looked pretty good in 2004 as well.  If Snead is any good in 2017 (nothing against him - best of luck to him) then you can bump this.  As of right now, however, he's right up there with Chansey Stuckey and Kevin Ogletree in terms of track record of success.

This.  There's a pretty long history of guys having relatively short term success in the NFL.  The real test comes when opposing teams have some film to watch and start game planning to stop you.  That's when the pretenders get weeded out.