A couple questionable decision from yesterday game

[2jakefansinva]

A Dick Lebeau blitzing defense giving an offense problems......

imagine that. 

[Peppers90 NC]

14 minutes ago, Udogg said:

Yes , so much of our offense is based on deception.  It's like that end around to the WR that we either run every week.  We have ran the same play with 3 different variations.  Don't always work but the more you give people to look at on film the slower they react.

when you lack playmakers, the coaches have to be more influential and thats what we have done. it seems like it has taken 20 years to finally get here, although I could argue Henning was somewhat innovative but we are at a new level now

[Fan01]

I wonder what the logic was in having so many long developing routes when the Titans pass rush was eating us up. 

Wanted more 3 step drops and shorter routes. 

I'm not sure if if that happened at some point.  Maybe someone with a lot more x and o football knowledge can tell me how we countered that Titans rush later in the game. For a while there it was a jail break on every play.

[Kurb]

2 hours ago, thebigcat said:

The only big thing I did not like was playing possum with over a minute left and 2 timeouts going into halftime knowing we are going to get the ball back after the half

This and not countering the "fug it send 9" blitzes that led to so many of the sacks sooner.

 

[Peppers90 NC]

1 minute ago, Fan01 said:

I wonder what the logic was in having so many long developing routes when the Titans pass rush was eating us up. 

Wanted more 3 step drops and shorter routes. 

I'm not sure if if that happened at some point.  Maybe someone with a lot more x and o football knowledge can tell me how we countered that Titans rush later in the game. For a while there it was a jail break on every play.

Not all the routes were intended to be long routes, but if the cb's are jamming the WR's it takes them longer to get open. Cam has the ability to audible at the LOS and he should have picked up the blitzes and made the adjustments, but after a couple of series, those adjustments were made.

[stankowalski]

2 hours ago, thebigcat said:

The only big thing I did not like was playing possum with over a minute left and 2 timeouts going into halftime knowing we are going to get the ball back after the half

I'm pretty sure the part where we were going to get the ball back first in the second half had a lot to do with the decision to not go for the score in that situation.  While I would have liked to have seen us do more there I can understand why they were being a bit conservative there.  We started at our 14 with 59 seconds left.  The chance is low to score in that situation and the chance for a TO increases because you basically have to pass in that situation and the defense knows it.

It's always easier to second guess things when you're not actually the one that has to make the calls.

[CRA]

I don't get Tolbert at the goal at this stage.  Our run blocking isn't good enough for him....he is too slow getting to the line of scrimmage.  Need Cam or Stewart.  Plus, Tolbert simply isn't as powerful as Stewart at this stage.  Tolbert needs to be removed as the short yardage back. 

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I don't get Tolbert at the goal at this stage.  Our run blocking isn't good enough for him....he is too slow getting to the line of scrimmage.  Need Cam or Stewart.  Plus, Tolbert simply isn't as powerful as Stewart at this stage.  Tolbert needs to be removed as the short yardage back. 

Tolbert should be removed period and get someone that can actually play FB well.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, KillerKat said:

Tolbert should be removed period and get someone that can actually play FB well.

I've never really considered him a FB.  Just a big RB who we occasionally ask to lead block (we have done that w/ TEs before).  His strengths have always been in a RB role.   Now he is just a big of fat guy that can't get to the line of scrimmage quick enough to give short yardage plays a shot.  I mean he is nice if he gets rolling in open space.....but who isn't in that scenario.

[MechaZain]

Would rather our QB avoiding diving through the wall of giant men trying to hurt him when that's Tolbert and Stewarts job. Only on 4th and 1 or if a scramble opportunity presents itself.

[panthers34]

I didn't agree with the conservative play call at the end of the first half either. We gave the Titans a chance to score because of it

[JawnyBlaze]

5 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Offensive play calling was more than suspect yesterday at times. 

How dare you question 9-0?  Don't you know a perfect record means no mistakes are possible and every decision is the right one?  There is no improvement possible on 9-0, so no improvement on the details that got them there is possible either. Lurn futbal gai. 

[GRWatcher]

5 hours ago, goodoleboy said:

I remember thinking at one point that we were getting a little pass happy and wishing they would run it more. The screen play needs to come back. I have no problem with running the backs inside the 5. That play fake needs to be a real threat when Cam does keep it.

 

4 hours ago, 2jakefansinva said:

A Dick Lebeau blitzing defense giving an offense problems......

imagine that. 

What I saw was a darn good defense ready to stop our rb's & Cam from the 1st snap but very suspect with their secondary coverage. Shula & Cam took what that defense gave us & we passed more early on. Once Lebeau realized that Cam Newton passing was eating them up, he changed it up. Unfortunately his LB's aren't that good in coverage. Screen plays? OMG, no. Did you not see how fast & hold-happy-because-refs-not-calling-holds their line was? Where were we going to get the time to set it up? 

[JawnyBlaze]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

I don't get Tolbert at the goal at this stage.  Our run blocking isn't good enough for him....he is too slow getting to the line of scrimmage.  Need Cam or Stewart.  Plus, Tolbert simply isn't as powerful as Stewart at this stage.  Tolbert needs to be removed as the short yardage back. 

Yea I said as much, I think in the game day thread. He can still truck/carry defenders but he needs momentum and the goalline carries don't give him the room to build up the momentum. His short area quickness and power are way too lacking for goalline plays like that.