Screamin A. Smith thinks it's a Race issue with Cam dancing

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6 minutes ago, pantherjack77 said:

as a white middle- aged male, and a conservative one at that, I have to say that woman who wrote the letter is a total embarrassment

and who is the guy who does wbt talk radio before noon?...that guy isstntly talking about how he doesn't like Cam when he does his first down pose and dancing ext...what is going on?...I am a huge Carolina Panthers fan...if Cam does a first down pose  am happy because- we got a first down!! and if he is dancing in end zone I am happy because we scored a touchdown!

I don't care what he does if it means something positive for the team

Keith Larsen is the WBT guy. Does good work with terminally sick kids in the Charlotte area, but likes to be a "bomb thrower" at times to jack up his ratings. 

[TheNewStandard]

5 minutes ago, teeray said:

It is a factor I believe.

And Bayless needs to answer why the QB position is supposed to "act a certain way" because he is a "leader of men"

There are many different ways to lead men, the only thing that matters is if your teammates respect you and follow you.

 

They're just mad because he's so young, has swagger and is (imo,) a top-3 QB in the league and the only one of those that scores rushing TDs on the reg. 

[Panthro]

Keith Larson is just pandering to his audience

[teeray]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How many Lion / Bear / Viking fans do you talk to?

There are indeed fans who don't like it, and several players have mocked it. People also complained about "Te-bowing" and Shawne Merriman's "lights out" dance, among others.

Basically, opposing fans hate you for any reason they can find, logical or not.

The vitriol and coding surrounding Cam is totally different and I think you know that.

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Just now, pantherjack77 said:

yeah he seems to have an issue with Cam...didn't like the green bay banner theft...doesn't like the first down pose, doesn't like the TD dancing ext...are these local folks even pulling for the Panthers?

Larsen's a Chicago native, former Micky-D's executive. 

[Ricky Spanish]

13 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

I'm assuming those Titans were black. So again, how is this a race issue? 

It has more to do with peoples hatred towards Cam, period. 

No it's because he's a Quarterback.

In the past, QBs have been primarily white. They behaved a certain way and all fit into the same cookie cutter persona. 

Then Cam came along and made no apologies for who he is, where he came from, or how he plays the game. He is a threat to the old way that things used to be so that scares people. It's unfamiliar so they get uncomfortable but they don't know why so they come up with assinine reasons to nitpick at him.

It's no more evident than the way in which the media has handled Andrew Luck's year this year compared to Cam's last year. Cam was hurt at the beginning of the year and then was in a car wreck but he "regressed" and wasn't "leading the team" to victory.

Luck has a poo year and the media blatantly LOOKS for reasons why he isn't doing well and how it isn't his fault. "He must be injured, that's why he isn't playing well. Yeah that's it." 

There will always be something wrong with Cam's game or his attitude and people will always find a way to move the goalposts for him. 

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3 minutes ago, pantherjack77 said:

oh...well that's interesting...local radio guy who clearly doesn't have any spirit, allegiance or sporting interest for the city he works in...sounds very Charlotte!

 

I will give Larson a pass. (wonder if he even watches football), due to his charity work.

http://marchforthwithhope.com/hopes-wish/

[UpstatePanther]

He and Skip Bayless are both douchebags. This is a non-issue. Not a race issue or franchise QB issue. I don't see Skip Bayless criticising Carson Palmer. Nor do I see Smith defending Aaron Rodgers (whose celebration is legitimately appropriate I might add).

They both can be fugged in the ear for all I care 

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, teeray said:

The vitriol and coding surrounding Cam is totally different and I think you know that.

How much research have you done with other fanbases?

I've yet to see a single one that wasn't dripping with hatred for opposing QBs, especially successful ones.

Heck, how much hatred is there on this board for Matt Ryan and Drew Brees? For that matter, how do rival boards tend to view Kuechly?

When opposing fans hate our players, I don't necessarily read anything else into it (especially when we beat them).

If you want to make an academic exercise of it though, research the annual list of the NFL's most hated players that Forbes does. I don't recall seeing Newton on it, but Roethlisberger is a fixture.

Here's a similar article from SI.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/23/nfl-most-hated-dan-snyder-bill-belichick-percy-harvin

[PhillyB]

it's not a race issue!

when people say things like "i would love to drag that man behind my pickup truck in chains" they would totally say that about a white quarterback they didn't like, too.

when people send in letters to the editor about the funky quasi-sexual prowess of that quarterback, they would totally not accept such behavior from a white quarterback, either, or direct impressionable childrens' attention to the quasi-sexual prowess of female dancers either.

when people complain that he's not "well-spoken," and simultaneously praise RGIII and russell wilson for being "articulate," they are totally not patronizing black adoption of white speech communities and they would praise any white quarterback for being "articulate" too.

it's not a race issue!

[TheWiz]

The President was primarily a role filled by a "white man." So alot of people's perspective of what the president is or should do is associated with "white culture." So when a non white President comes along, he seems non-presidential because much of his ways are non-white. 

Now this is the case for Cam Newton.... just like it is for President Obama. Both should be criticized and scrutinized for their ability to do the job... not how they look do it. 

(From a black man who regularly and critically disagrees with much of President Obama's policies.)

There's also something in black culture that few people in black like to admit. So allow me a moment of transparency. Oftentimes, when a black person (male/female) sees success in a role that normally filled by non-blacks, that person becomes the subject of even black criticism... especially if a large amount of black people have assimilated to the generalized culture. 

Examples: Black people sometimes have a bigger problem with black police officers than white police officers. Black people have seen those who are more educated as "uppity."

You are more likely to see an integrated church congregation where the pastor is white, than you are to see an integrated church where the pastor is black. So it isnt just white people who believe stereotypes.... in many instances, depending on the generation, black people believe them too. 

Cam is not the first mobile QB in the history of the league. But he is the first black QB who is as demonstrative as he is. And that rubs people the wrong way. Cam is at the crux of a changing of the guard... not just in sports, but in a generation. Deion Sanders was that kind of player. The Fab Five had this kind of impact.... where culture clashes with corporate expectations.

Lebron James came in the league... he was very demonstrative, taking pictures... throwing up powder... doing dance moves.... but not alot was made of it because he's in a sport that is primarily dominated by black culture. And even white people have come to expect this. There are no "roles in the NBA" that are historically dominated by white persons.... unless you're talking about "owners."

So while everything is not always RACIST... there is certainly a racial component. 

But to throw in a monkey wrench... 

Do I believe Cam's dancing was malicious? No. Do I believe it was excessive? Yes sir. 

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13 minutes ago, JakeR6 said:

Stephen A. Smith and Bomani Jones say everything is racism.

A lot of it is racism regarding Cam. However, there are a lot of people who dislike Cam because of Florida/Auburn and it has nothing to do with race. 

Hey my mans, please don't ever lump Bomani Jones with that slouch. Bo actually brings substance and great stuff to the sports world. 

[Panthers8969]

30 minutes ago, Panthro said:

Um no one wrote a letter describing how awful it was to have their daughter watch the sack dances by the Titans D or Carson Palmer

no one wrote a letter to smitty when he wiped the footballs ass like a baby either. Its just one isolated idiot. No one wrote to palmer bc maybe seahwaks fans aren't that stupid and realize the winner gets to celebrate? This lady was just salty af her team sucks. Wouldn't she be writing to all dancing black people if she was racist?

[TheNewStandard]

12 minutes ago, teeray said:

The vitriol and coding surrounding Cam is totally different and I think you know that.

I don't get it. Cam is so much fun to watch. He's o e of the few franchise faces that is also the team's biggest cheerleader on the sidelines. What's not to like? 

Lots just a game and in the end, games are supposed to be fun. I mean. Who wouldn't want to trade places with Cam? 

The dude gives his scoring football to kids after every score....it's like the ultimate souvenir that can be given.

i remember Ladanian Thompson keeping every ball from Touchdowns that he scored. And LD was one of my all-time faves, but now that I look back, it seems kinda selfish. 

My little bro used to play baseball and I got front row tickets down the right field sideline and used to nab foul balls all the time and I'd give them to kids who may or may not have ever owned a baseball...just thinking that one baseball would be used to make good memories throwing around with their friends.

I'm so thrilled with Cam, watching him play makes me feel like a kid again. I do t get the hate, it's just ridiculous. He is who he is and I'm so friggin glad I get to live vicariously through this team we have.