Money or winning?

[uncfan888]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

There is an alternate scenario, and one that I think is more relevant to us in Carolina.

Sometimes young guys sign with a good team to "grow their brand" and get their name out there, figuring they can cash in after that.

It's happened more than once here in the last few years.

 

i'm hoping we get the best of both worlds.. and it looks like we might

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

i'm hoping we get the best of both worlds.. and it looks like we might

It's known to be true that being a winning team does make you more attractive to free agents.

[uncfan888]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

It's known to be true that being a winning team does make you more attractive to free agents.

winning makes anything more attractive to anyone

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

winning makes anything more attractive to anyone

NFL free agency can often be a "rich get richer" scenario. 

Great players love to play alongside other great players.

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Keep in mind that injury could cut short your career at any time.  You're not technically guaranteed a "last few years".

Also worth remembering there are things like endorsements and visibility to consider. These things come much easier on a winning team.

Unless I am a 10 yr vet I am making as much money as possible....but would consider not chasing it to a Browns type situation. 

If I am young, maximizing the first two contracts is priority #1.   

 

 

Off topic...but I was thinking about Sam Bradford the other day.  Is there a player who has done less and been paid more than Bradford in recent years? Talk about cashing in

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Unless I am a 10 yr vet I am making as much money as possible....but would consider not chasing it to a Browns type situation. 

If I am young, maximizing the first two contracts is priority #1.   

Off topic...but I was thinking about Sam Bradford the other day.  Is there a player who has done less and been paid more than Bradford in recent years? Talk about cashing in

Agree about Bradford.

And this kind of helps frame the question: a few million to play two or three seasons with the Patriots or several million to commit long term to the Cleveland Browns?

Many players who spent long years with losing organization would say the losing wears on you (Carson Palmer, for example).

[KillerKat]

I just don't understand being an NFL player and not going for a ring every season you play.

[Bartin]

Money all day.

[outlaw4]

A big pile of money isn't worth going somewhere like the Browns or Dolphins. 

Some players, though, play mostly for the paycheck and will stop giving all their effort once they hit the big payday. Best to steer clear.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

I just don't understand being an NFL player and not going for a ring every season you play.

Realistically, we're discussing levels of money that most of us will never see.

As someone else mentioned, our perspective may be a little skewed.

[pantherclaw]

I wouldn't have to get top dollar. Could live quite comfortably on a lesser contract. 

So to me, it would be more about the team chemistry, and my role

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

A big pile of money isn't worth going somewhere like the Browns or Dolphins. 

Some players, though, play mostly for the paycheck and will stop giving all their effort once they hit the big payday. Best to steer clear.

How much money is worth being miserable in your job every day for years?

That's the operative question.

[d-dave]

If I'm an above average NFL player, I have to consider the Money to Winning Ratio.

If a bottom dweller offers more more than 30% (or something) than a winner, I have to very strong assess how "winning" that team will be.  Also, the better teams don't tend to pay out the ear for guys as opposed to cap flush teams who haven't sniffed 10 wins in 5+ years.

Like If Jacksonville offered me $20 million, but Carolina/NE/AZ/Seattle offered me $12, I think I'd go for the Jags.  $8 million is a LOT of money...it's hard to turn that down.  Now if the winner comes back at $16 million, it's an easier choice.

[philp]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Agree about Bradford.

And this kind of helps frame the question: a few million to play two or three seasons with the Patriots or several million to commit long term to the Cleveland Browns?

Many players who spent long years with losing organization would say the losing wears on you (Carson Palmer, for example).

Long term? Cleveland? Not sure if they do that there. :D