LeBatard: Building a Franchise in Salary Cap Sports Isn't Finding Great Players, It's Finding Great Value

[shaqattaq]

Losing Norman (which is the direction this thread has turned) is bad, but it is the same as Rivera said last year when KB went down, you don't replace the player (can't do it), you replace 73 catches and 9 TD's. that philosophy worked out just fine I'd say, and the secondary will work itself out as well.

[bLACKpANTHER]

I love LeBatard Show and Highly Questionable.. it is a complete 180* from Colin Cowturd. LeBatard hates the vanilla of 'sports' and how it is typically done and discussed. he is anti-establishment and I love it.

[Toker Smurf]

2 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I love LeBatard Show and Highly Questionable.. it is a complete 180* from Colin Cowturd. LeBatard hates the vanilla of 'sports' and how it is typically done and discussed. he is anti-establishment and I love it.

I agree. I always thought Cowherd took the contrarian view just to be different. Stugotz cracks me up (and I don't know how ESPN lets him go by that nickname, though its hilarious).

[Mr. Scot]

33 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Nah, you appear salty.  Hence your need to follow me in different threads and quite posts from other threads as if I was hiding from them.  Lol, saying someone is "showing what a hard ass they are," would fit under the category of human error.  Just for future reference.  And if those last words weren't coherent, you may want to find a tutor to help you with your remedial reading level.  Now, serve me up some more butthurt, hall monitor.

But saying something like that would indicate you know what's going on behind the scenes. And you don't.

[Proudiddy]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

But saying something like that would indicate you know what's going on behind the scenes. And you don't.

No, I'm on a message board and sharing my opinion, as most people here are.  I'm not stating it as fact.  It just so happens my opinion isn't popular, so people attack me for it.

I get tired of saying "i said," and "i already stated," so, ya'll can go read all the other posts to nitpick.  People are picking what they want and building strawmen out of nothing.  My opinion was inferring what was going on behind the scenes just as much as the crowd who claim with absolute 100% factual accuracy that Gettleman has never let his emotions influence a decision.  First off, I think it's absurd and laughably naive for anyone old enough to post on this board to think that, and second, Gettleman admitted to making such decisions.  I state that I think his ego affected negotiations and people go batshit defending him as infallible.

Some are mad because I'm not joining the fray and celebrating ever fuging move he makes.  When he makes a good one, i applaud it.  When i find it questionable, i say as much, and the majority don't want to hear that.  So be it...

[Bartin]

21 minutes ago, carolina-chuck2 said:

*Denver is only team that made splash moves and worked out. Bc, they already had core guys that they drafted (Miller, Harris, Jackson, Dthomas, Danny, Marshall, Roby, Wolfe).

NE - Revis and Browner(LaFell wasn't exactly a big signing but was big during that season)

SEA - Bennett and Avril(Harvin too who even though he missed like the entire 2013 season was very good in the playoffs)

BAL - Anquan Boldin(traded for him for a 3rd and 4th)

NYG - Antrel Rolle

GB - Charles Woodson(though that was 4 years prior to their SB year)

[ashehudson]

13 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

No, I'm on a message board and sharing my opinion, as most people here are.  I'm not stating it as fact.  It just so happens my opinion isn't popular, so people attack me for it.

I get tired of saying "i said," and "i already stated," so, ya'll can go read all the other posts to nitpick.  People are picking what they want and building strawmen out of nothing.  My opinion was inferring what was going on behind the scenes just as much as the crowd who claim with absolute 100% factual accuracy that Gettleman has never let his emotions influence a decision.  First off, I think it's absurd and laughably naive for anyone old enough to post on this board to think that, and second, Gettleman admitted to making such decisions.  I state that I think his ego affected negotiations and people go batshit defending him as infallible.

Some are mad because I'm not joining the fray and celebrating ever fuging move he makes.  When he makes a good one, i applaud it.  When i find it questionable, i say as much, and the majority don't want to hear that.  So be it...

Question. Would you feel this way about our GM if he had to let one of our DTs walk due to dropping 14 mil/year on Norman? Keeping our DL together is more important than keeping Norman IMO.

[Bartin]

2 minutes ago, carolina-chuck2 said:

They didn't sign mega deals

Revis did. 2 year, $32M deal which was really just a 1 year, $12M deal. The extra year was to spread out the cap hit.

[TheNewStandard]

Not to be too shrewd about the lebatard opinion, but it's pretty redundant. I mean, of course it's about value. You can't put together a team that can compete without it.

But it's a lot more than just value at positions where you don't have super stars, you've got to have the right money going to the positions that matter the most and Dave has been great, signing Olsen, Cam, Luke and getting CJ's cap number down out of the stratosphere.

Im not willing to trade KK for Norman and it very well could have come down to that. I'm way more comfortable having 30-million spread out for KK, our rookies and 5 or 6 solid players at less valuable positions. 

[TheNewStandard]

Btw...not to downplay Star, 'cause I'm sure he's being evaluated at every turn, to see what he really brings to the table and if we draft a DT in the first 3-rounds, the writing may be on the wall for him or even KK for that matter, just depends on which player is truly the anchor on the line.

[TheSpecialJuan]

52 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I love LeBatard Show and Highly Questionable.. it is a complete 180* from Colin Cowturd. LeBatard hates the vanilla of 'sports' and how it is typically done and discussed. he is anti-establishment and I love it.

Right. Shame both of them hate Cam.

[Mr. Scot]

48 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

No, I'm on a message board and sharing my opinion, as most people here are.  I'm not stating it as fact.  It just so happens my opinion isn't popular, so people attack me for it.

I get tired of saying "i said," and "i already stated," so, ya'll can go read all the other posts to nitpick.  People are picking what they want and building strawmen out of nothing.  My opinion was inferring what was going on behind the scenes just as much as the crowd who claim with absolute 100% factual accuracy that Gettleman has never let his emotions influence a decision.  First off, I think it's absurd and laughably naive for anyone old enough to post on this board to think that, and second, Gettleman admitted to making such decisions.  I state that I think his ego affected negotiations and people go batshit defending him as infallible.

Some are mad because I'm not joining the fray and celebrating ever fuging move he makes.  When he makes a good one, i applaud it.  When i find it questionable, i say as much, and the majority don't want to hear that.  So be it...

Ask yourself this: Why are people supporting him?

The answer is simple: Because under Gettleman we've had more success than at any other time in this franchise history.

And why is that? Because he makes the right moves way more often than he does the wrong ones. And that's included letting go of popular players that led to a lot of screaming and crying.

Frankly, just because you can't separate your emotions from a business decision doesn't mean others can't. 

[t96]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ask yourself this: Why are people supporting him?

The answer is simple: Because under Gettleman we've had more success than at any other time in this franchise history.

And why is that? Because he makes the right moves way more often than he does the wrong ones. And that's included letting go of popular players that led to a lot of screaming and crying.

Frankly, just because you can't separate your emotions from a business decision doesn't mean others can't. 

Gettleman didn't make the Smitty and Josh situations personal. It's the fans getting pissed about them who did. I love Smitty and Josh and do wish we could've come to terms with them to stay here, but it's a business and the moves were necessary. I don't let the business of the NFL affect me as a fan. It's pretty sad to see how Patriots fans have responded to Brady's suspension coming back, and how they actually tried to sue the NFL and pay the fine for Kraft. Just plain silly.

[bLACKpANTHER]

4 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Right. Shame both of them hate Cam.

what r u talkin bout? Lebatard loves Cam.. he was the only one defending him for the press conference fiasco

He loves anyone who says something 'real' and not the cliche ridden statements our coaches, players and talking heads give at every turn.. have you heard his segment where he has a mash-up of the most useless statements of the week - or Stugotz game notes.. its so terrible its hilarious