If I am San Fran or any team

[KSpan]

24 minutes ago, 15 said:

the bronco's leaked the blue print to beating the panthers. keep in mind we haven't played a team besides Denver for 7 months. 

 

2 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

It's a great blueprint if you have top level talent in the secondary and the pass rush. Most teams don't have that, pretty much no other team has their level.

Precisely. Denver's blueprint requires elite rushers and a quality secondary, a combination that few teams have, and Carolina still almost beat them in their house. As long as Carolina plays their game (the "any given Sunday" factor in the NFL) I'm not overly concerned.

[Khyber53]

Here's the deal: We can't keep going down the road butthurt over Cam taking those hits. Publicly, the NFL fined the two most flagrant hits and followed their basic policy on that. They did not, however, say "Hey, go knock his head off, it's only $24k in costs to win a game."

You had better believe that the refs at our next game are going to be on top of this before it gets out of hand. They'll shut it down the first time SF or we take a headshot on a QB. Period. They couldn't come out and hang those refs last week, not one of their premiere groupings and not in the first week of football. This week, we're playing a much less high profile game and the jabronis that will be calling it can and will get hung out to dry if they let that crap happen again.

So, rub some dirt on it and let's get back to the game. Walk it off, man.

[Servant of Cthululelei]

49 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

That's why the Panthers D will have to return the favor, I don't care if we injure cpl of player a game long as it's the opposing team getting the punishment. 

I disagree.  It needs to be our Offense that makes them pay for this.  If a defender takes cheap shots at Cam, he needs to get bodyslammed by 300 pound screaming mountain man after every play.

[beastson]

45 minutes ago, motocross_cat said:

You would like to think that not every team has clear character issues.

True

But I think every team wants to win and they're going to do it by any means necessary

[hepcat]

Been saying the Panthers need to start playing like other teams play them. Start pushing the envelope, bashing the opposing QB late, hit him in the head, give him the same treatment the other teams give Cam. I bet we'd see some late hit calls on Cam start rolling in pretty quick when TD sends Drew Brees to the ER.

[TheRumGone]

8 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Here's the deal: We can't keep going down the road butthurt over Cam taking those hits. Publicly, the NFL fined the two most flagrant hits and followed their basic policy on that. They did not, however, say "Hey, go knock his head off, it's only $24k in costs to win a game."

You had better believe that the refs at our next game are going to be on top of this before it gets out of hand. They'll shut it down the first time SF or we take a headshot on a QB. Period. They couldn't come out and hang those refs last week, not one of their premiere groupings and not in the first week of football. This week, we're playing a much less high profile game and the jabronis that will be calling it can and will get hung out to dry if they let that crap happen again.

So, rub some dirt on it and let's get back to the game. Walk it off, man.

These are my thoughts. The fan in me wants a suspension because fug those dirty cheap shotting players. But realistically this will keep Cam more safe, hopefully being more ready to throw flags because it's been plastered all over sports tv, radio and the Internet. 

Also, not all teams play with malicious intent. There are good coaches that teach proper technique and play. I'm pissed that they basically got off with a light slap on the wrist, while the NFL launches a 100 million dollar program for safety, because it was sickening watching the game and hearing Denver players comments. But moving forward I think Cam will be watched more intently. Which is all that really needs to happen for Cam's safety.

[pantherclaw]

I won't waste my time expecting the refs to start giving a damn about Cam. 

 

 

[juliosantos]

no reason why we shouldn't beat the breaks off this team 

[d-dave]

Some real quality points on page 2! 8/10 would read again!

So I've been classically "butthurt" over the way our QB has been treated.  It was an excellent point that the team that called the first game of the season as well as the fact that it was a premium game for the NFL, affected how the game was called.

Refs are ranked on how well they call games.  I don't think a mid-tier ref group is going to take chances on being hung out to dry the NFL.

There was also several good points about the Denver D versus the rest of the NFL.  While someone might be 80% the rusher of Von Miller, they aren't Von Miller.  Likewise to their D.  Just because you can run the same scheme doesn't mean you should.  

I'm not going to discount SF.  I do believe we're a better team, but I do think that they have the ability to give us real headaches (not an intentional pun).  If they try to do the Blue/Green Dog blitzing, they aren't going to make the same calibure of plays Denver was able to due to them having some of the best players in the league at key spots (OLB, CB, S).

If our opponents play that game all season, then I agree, we're going to have quite the successful season.

[TylerDurden]

Honrstly, I think this has been the plan for him for years...  Denver is just extra dirty.

[London Loves Luke]

Wow people really think this is the first time defenses have realised that roughing up the QB can help them win a football game.

You should really get on the phone to all sorts of D co-ordinators and let them know.

 

[Nick_81]

1 hour ago, 15 said:

I really hope so. I think some of you are underestimating SF though and will be surprised how tough this game will be. 

I personally think LA just didn't come ready to play, on either side of the ball.  That front 4 of theirs' should have been able to manhandle SF's oline, but they just looked... almost disinterested.  On offense, LA should have matched up well, but sure didn't play like it.  It's almost like they thought Gurley would be automatic positive yards, and were lost when he wasn't.  I think we'll find out pretty quickly, but I don't expect SF to look remotely close to what we saw Monday night.

[Jangler]

3 hours ago, motocross_cat said:

You would like to think that not every team has clear character issues.

You are down one point, win the game and go to the playoffs. Yeah, I can see teams going after Cam to get the ball back. 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, truthjuice said:

Here's the thing, not every team plays dirty like that. Everyone has known the key to beating the Panthers is limiting Cam. They just haven't figured out how to do it. I doubt coaches are saying go hit him in the head. The Broncos really didn't leak a blueprint or expose anything. They can't beat Cam fair and square is what they proved. Again, even with the dirty hits and missed calls, Carolina almost won that game. Gano missed a field goal. There aren't many teams like Denver. They're good and dirty. 

I agree, not every team is coached dirty like a Kubiak team or Fischer team.

but every team has guys will to play dirty for the right reward