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Where do they find a pass rush?

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The answer, is in this thread, already.  

He has been punished enough and avoided enough already.  Time for one more chance.  If the team is OK with it, I say do it, not much of a risk I'm sure.  It'll take weeks to get caught up but it may be worth it.   Dude would come in fighting for his career and would probably be a monster.  

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Gettleman is tied to Ealy, and he keeps putting all his eggs in that basket and they're rotting. RR was doubting Ealy last season wondering "when is this guy going to catch on?" and then he played well in the SB and Gettleman had renewed confidence in his pick. We need a DE next draft. Needed one last draft as well. This is what happens when your GM won't let go of a player because he doesn't want to look bad. Gettleman keeps thinking Ealy is going to transform into Osi Umenyiora. Thank god Cam is supercharging this offense, because the defense is becoming a liability.

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Why are ya'll shitting on Ealy this early?  Last time Hardy was with us for a full season, he didn't have a sack the first 2 games.  10 of his 15 sacks that year, were against horrendous offensive lines, and he'd disappear for a couple games at a time.  I'm not saying Ealy is going to be great, but he has been going against pretty damn good tackles thus far.

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17 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Gettleman is tied to Ealy, and he keeps putting all his eggs in that basket and they're rotting. RR was doubting Ealy last season wondering "when is this guy going to catch on?" and then he played well in the SB and Gettleman had renewed confidence in his pick. We need a DE next draft. Needed one last draft as well. This is what happens when your GM won't let go of a player because he doesn't want to look bad. Gettleman keeps thinking Ealy is going to transform into Osi Umenyiora. Thank god Cam is supercharging this offense, because the defense is becoming a liability.

I don't know that many realized just how terrible the OT was that Kony went up against in the SB.

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26 minutes ago, Nick_81 said:

Why are ya'll shitting on Ealy this early?  Last time Hardy was with us for a full season, he didn't have a sack the first 2 games.  10 of his 15 sacks that year, were against horrendous offensive lines, and he'd disappear for a couple games at a time.  I'm not saying Ealy is going to be great, but he has been going against pretty damn good tackles thus far.

But in the season opener against the eventual Super Bowl Champs, the front 4 was DOMINANT, whether he had a sack or not.  He was in the mix, there was constant pressure, and Marshawn was shut down if not for a late missed tackle by Beason.  Olsen's drops, Kearse's play over Josh Thomas, Wilson's miracles, and of course DeAngelo's fumble were the reasons for the L.

And again, more sacks than any team in three decades.  Whether he was in the stats sheet or not, he allowed others to be.

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Whatever it is, I am surprised Ryan Delaire is still a Carolina Panther. He had a couple of good games as soon as he got here, but he's been a tire fire since. He always goes wide on the pass rush and loses his contain, which wouldn't be so bad if he EVER got anywhere close to the quarterback. He just gets escorted around the end by the RT and by the time he gets back to the play it's already out.

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5 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

Whatever it is, I am surprised Ryan Delaire is still a Carolina Panther. He had a couple of good games as soon as he got here, but he's been a tire fire since. He always goes wide on the pass rush and loses his contain, which wouldn't be so bad if he EVER got anywhere close to the quarterback. He just gets escorted around the end by the RT and by the time he gets back to the play it's already out.

He had one good game, against the Bucs, and ironically it was BEFORE Hardy Jr returned to plant Brady in his debut last year.

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1 hour ago, ctrcat said:

But in the season opener against the eventual Super Bowl Champs, the front 4 was DOMINANT, whether he had a sack or not.  He was in the mix, there was constant pressure, and Marshawn was shut down if not for a late missed tackle by Beason.  Olsen's drops, Kearse's play over Josh Thomas, Wilson's miracles, and of course DeAngelo's fumble were the reasons for the L.

And again, more sacks than any team in three decades.  Whether he was in the stats sheet or not, he allowed others to be.

Seattle 2013:  The front 4 accounted for 11 of the 60 tackles, 2 sacks, and 1 forced fumble.  

SanFran 2016:  The front 4 accounted for 16 of the 59 tackles, 2 sacks, and 1 forced fumble.

Like I said, there's no need to poo on someone this early in the season.  Come game 6, there might be a better reason to bitch about it.

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2 hours ago, Nick_81 said:

Seattle 2013:  The front 4 accounted for 11 of the 60 tackles, 2 sacks, and 1 forced fumble.  

SanFran 2016:  The front 4 accounted for 16 of the 59 tackles, 2 sacks, and 1 forced fumble.

Like I said, there's no need to poo on someone this early in the season.  Come game 6, there might be a better reason to bitch about it.

There used to be a montage on YouTube of our DL vs their OL in that game, but was removed due to NFL copyright.  It was complete domination and a travesty we did not win-the Hawks were simply charmed that season.

No matter what happens over the next 3-4 weeks (against some weak OTs I might add (Kalil among others was a matador last night)), this unit is not as good as it could and should be.

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2 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Why would you expect a pass rush against Chip Kelly when 95% of the time the ball is out in two seconds?

Well we did have a great pass rush and 5 sacks against Chip Kelly last year so...maybe hoping for a repeat performance.

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Saw Gabbert with plenty of time to think, spin laces, think again and throw. The pass rush wasn't consistent enough to create (fear) pressure.

What are the DE's there for if they can't even manage to touch the quarterback? Our DT's are getting sacks. Our one time greatest strength is starting to show cracks.

As a fanbase we're not used to not having a great pass rush. I know Getts is the expert but if everybody here pretty much predicted a weak pass rush why didn't he see it?

He did claim that pass rush could come from elsewhere but to me that's basically admitting the fact that the "talent" at DE  isn't getting home to the QB and they're kicking that can down the road 

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25 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Well we did have a great pass rush and 5 sacks against Chip Kelly last year so...maybe hoping for a repeat performance.

Bradford holding on too long a couple of those. It is true about broncos and 49ers, they are attacking with quick passes and it's working. Not the whole game plan but a large part.

Regarding trade options, I'll repeat this name- clowney.

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