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Cam Newton has unmasked this entire football team.

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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1 minute ago, PhillyB said:

zero chance rivera goes during the season. 

I'm talking post season.

I don't think Rivera is getting fired midseason.

Hate to tell you but I don't think anybody else is either.

1 minute ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

correct me if i'm wrong, but have the Panthers ever made a coaching change mid season in their history? 

GM change, yes. Head Coach change, no.

And I don't think either of those things happen this year either.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I know he prefers defensive coaches, but I also know he's deferred to Gettleman before (Steve Smith's release for example).

I think he'd defer here too.

And Kyle Shanahan may be a hot coaching prospect by year's end, so...

Considering what I'm learning from the Falcons game plans....I think that'd be a great move honestly....it seems like the Falcons actually game plan for the teams they play against and scheme accordingly...no "They did the same poo" from the Broncos after they played them so that's something. Plus if you watch some of the breakdowns on the philosophy of his offense....yea sign me up I bet Cam will be doing bootlegs and rollouts with him.

So good of a move I think we don't do it...actually seems like too good of an idea for a franchise like the Panthers to make that move.

I'd rather we got Zimmer even if both of them were available but someone like him may end up being one of the better guys available.

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9 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

zero chance rivera goes during the season. 

yep.  if rivera doesn't make changes he's banking on a collective coming to jesus moment by the team to keep his job though.  this coaching staff can't limp to 8 wins and expect mother fugers not to get the ax.  rivera's got to show initiative and correct managerial decision making from here on out to keep his job.  my opinion, but i think it is valid.  

whether you like gentleman or not, he is the top football boss and his offseason moves screamed "we got the personnel to do big things".  who does he lay the most blame on if they suck?  himself?  that might be the correct answer, but...

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1 minute ago, Fox007 said:

Considering what I'm learning from the Falcons game plans....I think that'd be a great move honestly....it seems like the Falcons actually game plan for the teams they play against and scheme accordingly...no "They did the same poo" from the Broncos after they played them so that's something. Plus if you watch some of the breakdowns on the philosophy of his offense....yea sign me up I bet Cam will be doing bootlegs and rollouts with him.

So good of a move I think we don't do it...actually seems like too good of an idea for a franchise like the Panthers to make that move.

I'd rather we got Zimmer even if both of them were available but someone like him may end up being one of the better guys available.

Big big BIG thing to consider here, though.

Having a Shanahan in charge means a West Coast style offense.

Cam Newton is not well suited to play in a WCO, and new coaches often want "their own guy" at QB.

There'd be a major dilemma in that circumstance.

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If there is a HC change it is going to happen off season and I imagine some great football minds would be lining up to not only lead the show for an NFL team, but one with Cam playing under center.  fug McDaniels would be nasty down here.  That is what is so ridiculous and why Ron should be asking some serious questions to himself about how firm he believes his seat is as the head guy on the sidelines.  

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Just now, greghardy'sAK-47 said:

If there is a HC change it is going to happen off season and I imagine some great football minds would be lining up to not only lead the show for an NFL team, but one with Cam playing under center.  fug McDaniels would be nasty down here.  That is what is so ridiculous and why Ron should be asking some serious questions to himself about how firm he believes his seat is as the head guy on the sidelines.  

Anthony Lynn has gotten head coaching chatter before.

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Op is incredible knowledgeable but I disagree with a couple things, starting with Shula, good oc but can't blame execution on him, anytime the game is on the line (besides today's last drive) you can count on him to call good plays to get us down the field. This man had to scheme around below average ot's, drop passes, penalties, penalties, holding the ball too long, and lazy route running....not to mention absolute horrible decision making. Second ,DG is a decent gm but failed to take advantage of the position this team was in twice now (assuming this team doesn't turn it around). If we had 2013's d line I would agree cb isn't as important a position, but given that ealy is proven to be nothing but a viable backup and Cj is no

longer a pass rush threat, we miss judge that position horribly. This season outcome through the first 5 weeks is soley on DG and Rivera.

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4 hours ago, greghardy'sAK-47 said:

Let's just say I hope we are in the same position after 16, but something tells me ATL isn't gonna go winless from here on out and what the rest of the division is doing plays a big part in who gets shitcanned.  Especially when you are coming off 17-2 and your GM seems more than confident in the fact that you got the personnel to get poo done.  

We may not have the perfect personnel, but we DO have a Top 10 roster in the league.

With the personnel on this team, we SHOULD be 4-1 right now.

The fact that we aren't isn't a personnel problem.

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4 hours ago, beastson said:

And OC's get fired all the time. Two already been fired so far. It surely sparked up the Bills, we shall see what happens to the Ravens. Speaking of the Ravens, they fired Cam Cameron almost towards the end of the season and went on to the win the SB. I hate to ask, but why carolina fans ask irrelevant questions. If the offense isn't doing what it's supposed to do, make the change. That's the HC job to figure out. It's not like the coaches do poo here anyway, from what I'm told its strictly player execution that wins or loses for us. So what is Shula good for? 

And don't forget, the play-calling isn't Shula's fault, it's Cam's.  Because Cam goes to the line with 2 Shula plays and one of those plays is Genius Shula and the other is Retard Shula.  It's Cam's fault that he never chooses Genius Shula.  If only Cam weren't constantly letting Shula down!

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If nothing else, this is an entertaining time of the year.  When the Panthers fall down, the Huddle has historically gone to poo.  Thanks for not letting me down.

@phillyB, I love your writing, and I agree with the idea that Cam hides a ton of flaws for the team. We were bound to fall at some point.  It happens in the NFL.  Consistent excellency is extremely difficult.  

I don't think we're going to give up on Ron or Dave anytime soon.  I could see Shula being a sacrifice to appease the fans like Hurney was.  My concern is how that will change the running game, which has been our calling card for a few years and the basis of the offense.

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21 minutes ago, Billy Love said:

I could accept being 1-4 if we had marginal overall talent on this team...but we don't. We are fairly talented...far to talented to be in this situation. I honestly don't get it. 

At the moment we are playing with below average DEs, below average OTs, and below average running backs, and below average secondary. If thats not a talent problem I dont know what is 

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2 minutes ago, csx said:

At the moment we are playing with below average DEs, below average OTs, and below average running backs, and below average secondary. If thats not a talent problem I dont know what is 

CAP had 80+ yards and 2 TDs and almost 5 ypc last night against a defense that was stacking the box all night because they knew if they forced DA to throw he'd throw interceptions.

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