PUSSY BOAT RIVERA

[Mike Oxlong]

I believe Barry is referring to the well known back of the napkin calculation. Where, if the length of your cod piece is longer than what you need for the first down.... you go for it.

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[truthjuice]

Ron not putting faith in his QB who gets that 4th and 1 but choosing to put his faith in a defense against the best 4th quarter QB was such a bad decision. 

[Carolina Cajun]

6 minutes ago, truthjuice said:

Ron not putting faith in his QB who gets that 4th and 1 but choosing to put his faith in a defense against the best 4th quarter QB was such a bad decision. 

Let's also keep in mind, a defense without it's MVP, short at an already weak CB position, and lacking any semblance of a pass rush...that decision was sure to end up good.

[DaveThePanther2008]

10 hours ago, Darth Biscuit said:

Game and season on the line...  let's punt and trust the D that has let the Raiders score 24 points instead of trusting Cam and playing to win.  Agree, Riverboat Ron is dead and buried.

When you don't play to win, but hope the opponent loses you're gonna have a bad time.

 

Thank god a decent response to a shitty thread.  

I realize it was on our own 40 but damn.  Our season is on the line and we had them backing up.  SURPRISINGLY our offense was better in the 2nd half than the 1st.  

It would have been better for them to stop us at our own 40 score the go ahead and we get the ball back with a couple minutes than to punt it away and let them march down the field.   You had to believe it was going to be 4 down territory for both squads.

In the 5 -1/2 years Rivera has been our coach this is the first time I am willing to discuss a change in coaching.  Partially because of his poor game management and partially because he is going to be too loyal to our real problem on offense.   Mike Shula.

[truthjuice]

2 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Let's also keep in mind, a defense without it's MVP, short at an already weak CB position, and lacking any semblance of a pass rush...that decision was sure to end up good.

I don't know what Ron was thinking there. That's not a gamble many coaches take, especially when you know your MVP is gonna get that yard 99% of the time. Then the next Raiders drive, isn't that where we got the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty? Ron can coach us out of a good situation. 

[RumHam]

If we go for it on 4th and an inch, Shula would put Cam in shotgun instead of doing a fall forward qb sneak under the center. Problem is still Shula.

[Toker Smurf]

I wanted to go for it but understood to a degree because of the oline situation. I was more upset with going for two, twice. If we kick those EPs, the Raiders don't go for two and we are up 10. I thought it was common knowledge that you don't start trying to make up points with 2 point conversions, that early.

[Darth Biscuit]

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Thank god a decent response to a shitty thread.  

I realize it was on our own 40 but damn.  Our season is on the line and we had them backing up.  SURPRISINGLY our offense was better in the 2nd half than the 1st.  

It would have been better for them to stop us at our own 40 score the go ahead and we get the ball back with a couple minutes than to punt it away and let them march down the field.   You had to believe it was going to be 4 down territory for both squads.

In the 5 -1/2 years Rivera has been our coach this is the first time I am willing to discuss a change in coaching.  Partially because of his poor game management and partially because he is going to be too loyal to our real problem on offense.   Mike Shula.

Thank you.

 

Yes, we had it on our 40, moving the ball... sure an argument can be made that KB screw up was bigger, he did make a mistake... but when the players and fans look to a coach, they want him to make the right decisions.  RR had time to think about it and chose to play it "safe" or "conservative" or whatever you want to call it and instead of putting confidence in our MVP QB to get it done, he chose to punt and hope the D could hold.  

That's been his M.O. his entire stay as coach of the Panthers and maybe that's what JR wants.  He's a defensive minded coach and he's shown over and over again that he'd rather trust in the defense and the coaches handbook that says punt in that situation than to be aggressive and play to win.

 

Like Dave said... OK, we give up the ball on the 40 there and they score.  We still have more time to score again.  Very bad call imo.

I'd MUCH, MUCH rather lose trying to win than lose trying not to lose.

[Mr. Scot]

While I wouldn't go as far as the thread title, I do think we all need to acknowledge that "Riverboat" was an illusion.

[Pimpdaddy]

....like he makes the same mistakes over and over on these decisions...oh well, hes the coach...

 

[rippadonn]

R.I.P.  Riverboat Ron

 

 

[Peppers90 NC]

I think we all knew what was going to happen after we punted. We just didn't expect to have that much time left, a timeout and only down by 3.

[rippadonn]

What is so frustrating is the GM and coach should be smarter than us armchair coaches and GM's.

The Panthers go out of their way as an organization to do the opposite of what we all know they should. 

As silly as teh huddle can be we've out GM'd and out coached these hucksters.

[dave-o]

Rivera is anything but a gambler....  I still dont know why he has that nickname....