Devin Funchess

[PhillyB]

32 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Can you explain more 

we have a low sample size. that means we're looking at too few seasons to be able to get an idea of his performance, because there could be different variables involved. one is his rookie season, hardly an indicator of anyone's career by itself. two is an awful season that knocked everyone's performance metrics into the red, so it's an outlier on everyones' performance charts.

simply put, he needs at least another season to really grade out with some sort of consistency. and he'll get it, he's not going anywhere.

[panthers55]

Most of you apparently haven't been Panther fans long enough to remember the long string of players we have drafted over the years at WR who took time to develop or never did.  Part of it is picking guys who are not NFL ready when they are drafted. Secondly we draft for potential more than production so the need to develop them is a given. Finally in a run heavy scheme there are only so many balls for your fourth or fifth option. Funchess has been fine when given the opportunity. He seems to be coming along given the limited number of opportunities he gets.

[Boxhead85]

Anyone think it would be a good idea to move him to TE? I mean he was a TE at Michigan and we are lacking at the position.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, PhillyB said:

we have a low sample size. that means we're looking at too few seasons to be able to get an idea of his performance, because there could be different variables involved. one is his rookie season, hardly an indicator of anyone's career by itself. two is an awful season that knocked everyone's performance metrics into the red, so it's an outlier on everyones' performance charts.

simply put, he needs at least another season to really grade out with some sort of consistency. and he'll get it, he's not going anywhere.

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The core players had about the same stats 2015/2016 slightly below but not in the red as your calming. Touchdowns where down due to OL protection. Devin Funchess can't beat 30+ Ted Ginn/Brown because he doesn't provide and unique skill set to the offense. IMO so far he is a bust for the amount of draft picks we used.

Ginn:

       2015: 739yds  10 TDs

       2016: 752yds  4 TDs

Olsen:

       2015: 1,104yds 7 TDs

       2016: 1,073yds 3 TDs

Stewart:

       2015:  989yds 6 TDs

       2016:  824yds 9 TDs

KB:

       2014:  1,008yds 9 TDs

       2015:  Out

       2016:   941yds  7 TDs

      

In 2015 with KB out he had plenty of opportunity to produce but his talent level was holding him back.

2015: 

Tyler Lockett:     68 receiving targets     51 reception  664yds 6 TDs

Devin Funchess: 64 receiving targets    31 reception  473yds 5 TDS

 

 

 

[Ace_Aladdin]

36 minutes ago, Boxhead85 said:

Anyone think it would be a good idea to move him to TE? I mean he was a TE at Michigan and we are lacking at the position.

That would be the worst idea ever, he can't beat 5'-11 CB in press coverage he would get eaten alive working against LB, DEs etc etc.

[uncfan888]

Stop tagging everyone to back you up.  Fight your own battles! Damn dude

[Ace_Aladdin]

2 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Stop tagging everyone to back you up.  Fight your own battles! Damn dude

There is nothing to fight about, the truth is out there. DG's gang comes in swarm have to stay alert.

[Chimera]

13 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

 

In 2015 with KB out he had plenty of opportunity to produce but his talent level was holding him back.

2015: 

Tyler Lockett:     68 receiving targets     51 reception  664yds 6 TDs

Devin Funchess: 64 receiving targets    31 reception  473yds 5 TDS

 

 

 

Wait, so you're comparing Lockett, the All Pro kick returner, to Funchess, a possession receiver?

A better comparison for Lockett would be Ted Ginn.

[Ace_Aladdin]

4 minutes ago, Chimera said:

Wait, so you're comparing Lockett, the All Pro kick returner, to Funchess, a possession receiver?

A better comparison for Lockett would be Ted Ginn.

I'm comparing 2 WRs in the same draft class and those are receiving stats, BTW Funchess was supposed to be an all around WR that could play X, Y & Z  when drafted not solely a possession receiver. Also look at his drop rate he wouldn't be much of a possession guy.

[Hoenheim]

I think the jury is still out.

That being said, I don't like the logic of needing to give him more seasons to see if his performance gets better , because we could have someone like a D.Jackson or a great veteran possession reciever in his place who would have assisted us much more in my opinion. I think Gettleman made a mistake in not drafting a WR that brought a different skill set to the table than Benji .

His 3rd seasons going to be really important for evaluating him. This season I think Cam didn't even throw or look his way that often . Cam gets tunnel vision with olsen and Benjamin sometimes..what we are truly missing I'd a young speed killer on the outside with Benjamin and olsen getting most of the DB attention , cam and our future burner should tear it up with gin being an option in the slot . 

If we draft Fournette , Legett/Njoku, and either draft Westbrook or sign DeSean Jackson , our offense will be totally different.

[Krovvy]

11 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Comparisons yo Donald Lafell are utterly ridiculous.  If Funchess can do one thing, it's catch.  At this point, Donald was a  better route runner, and could get better separation, but his hands were utterly atrocious.  Here's the thing though, Lafell had small hands and no matter how much he worked on it, he could not make his hands bigger, so he was forced to have his low ceiling.  Funchess can work on his route running and separation, those are correctable with hard work, Trump hands are not fixable, thus why I'm willing to give Funchess some time.

Last I checked Devin drops far more balls than LaFell ever did.

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Rather let him play his rookie contract out before doing anything drastic


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[MHS831]

He runs 3 routes tops and gets no separation.  He needs his size,, so slants are his thing.  Not a #2.

[Chimera]

On ‎2017‎/‎02‎/‎07 at 11:15 AM, sanjay_rajput said:

I'm comparing 2 WRs in the same draft class and those are receiving stats, BTW Funchess was supposed to be an all around WR that could play X, Y & Z  when drafted not solely a possession receiver. Also look at his drop rate he wouldn't be much of a possession guy.

You're comparing two completely different types of receiver. One was drafted as a kick returner. He's an All Pro kick returner. He's used in the passing game solely because of his speed. He has plays called specifically to take advantage of his speed. We do the same thing with Ted Ginn. If you watch the Seahawks play instead of basing your "knowledge" off of stat sheets, they throw him a lot of short passes with hopes he works magic in the open field.

Funchess does not have specific plays designed to take advantage of being tall. According to Sporting Charts, Funchess dropped 3 of 58 passes in 2016. His scouting report basically said he's not a deep threat, and that he is a mismatch, especially in the red zone. It didn't say anything about being an all around WR. Where did you see that?