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SBNation has us trading up to #5

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Nails Newbie

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18 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I have no idea which thread I posted a reply to this type of drivel, but I looked pretty deep into the stats and compared him to Peterson and he compared very favorably in terms of good games against good teams and Peterson had the same type of results. Guess what, in the NFL, most RBs have good games against bad Ds and worse games against good Ds.

That said, the games against Alabama were awful and not due to Fournette. There were a couple of analysts that broke down the games and Alabama and they were absolutely destroying the OL and LSU has 0 threat at QB.

Also, I'll be honest, if you think the Alabama D going against a terrible passing team is typical then, you haven't looked at draft results this year and last year. They were loaded and if Fournette is the only weapon, they'll stop him. Clemson did great because A) they have a better OL, B) Watson is a heck of a QB and C) they have multiple weapons to worry about in Williams/rest of WRs, Gallman, Leggett and Watson.

And D) they were destiny's darlings.  NCSU missing a chip shot to win confirms that fact.

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24 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I have no idea which thread I posted a reply to this type of drivel, but I looked pretty deep into the stats and compared him to Peterson and he compared very favorably in terms of good games against good teams and Peterson had the same type of results. Guess what, in the NFL, most RBs have good games against bad Ds and worse games against good Ds.

That said, the games against Alabama were awful and not due to Fournette. There were a couple of analysts that broke down the games and Alabama and they were absolutely destroying the OL and LSU has 0 threat at QB.

Also, I'll be honest, if you think the Alabama D going against a terrible passing team is typical then, you haven't looked at draft results this year and last year. They were loaded and if Fournette is the only weapon, they'll stop him. Clemson did great because A) they have a better OL, B) Watson is a heck of a QB and C) they have multiple weapons to worry about in Williams/rest of WRs, Gallman, Leggett and Watson.

That about covers it. Better teams can stop one-dimensional offenses with ease. And LF had, what could be argued as the worst QB play of any power 5 team, his entire career. Have watched his entire career. As someone who isn't a fan of 1st round RBs, he's an exception. But not a fan of trading up. 8 is already enough investment.

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13 minutes ago, CWORS said:

The only way I see DG trading up is for Myles Garrett.

Would take next year's 1st, no doubt, leaving us only 5 picks in 2018.  I don't see it.  If the 49ers new regime remains hellbent on keeping Staley for a premium, maybe a package of Joe Staley, #2 (Garrett), and 2018 4th Round for our 1, 2, 3 this year and 1 next year.  Maybe 1, 2, KB, and 1 next year.  Far flung and I don't like it.  Not enough juice for squeeze.

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I wouldn't be crazy about that at all. Not only am I not a fan of taking a rb so high but also unless they seriously fix the o line they will be wasting 2 picks.

Having said that, if he's the bpa at #8 take him, but personally I hope he isn't.

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This team values the run game like no other. That's been the MO. It's funny how they just happened to get the all time best running QB. Their priority is to take the pressure off of Cam.

If Stew can't play the whole season it would be very wishful thinking to believe a 3rd-4th rounder could fill his shoes. The undrafted free agents and sixth rounders haven't panned out. There is no substitute for elite talent at the most important positions. They can't afford the stopgaps they have to solve the RB problem long term.

If Kahlil and Oher play and we add a couple quality depth guys the Oline will be OK again no need to panic there.

If Fournette is the guy and we only give up 3rd rounder or two to move up that's great. We don't need a bunch of draft picks this year. We're not (shouldn't be) a rebuilding team like most of the teams in the top ten.

 

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2 hours ago, Nails said:

Would take next year's 1st, no doubt, leaving us only 5 picks in 2018.  I don't see it.  If the 49ers new regime remains hellbent on keeping Staley for a premium, maybe a package of Joe Staley, #2 (Garrett), and 2018 4th Round for our 1, 2, 3 this year and 1 next year.  Maybe 1, 2, KB, and 1 next year.  Far flung and I don't like it.  Not enough juice for squeeze.

That would be a great idea!!! To bad DG won't do it!!

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On 2/20/2017 at 0:20 PM, nctarheel0619 said:

I see where you're coming from.  But, in this Draft there's a clear difference between the safeties and Fournette, and Solomon Thomas.  Thomas while being solid, isn't a guarantee.  While Fournette is a guarantee at this point.    

...so was Trent Richardson...high draft RB's usually dont pan out...and if we trade up it would be a reach... 

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