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Is Hurney good as gone?


DaveThePanther2008

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Most of you know Hurney was a Richardson guy.

His history says keeping him around could put us back in the Cap hell he got us into before.

He has done some interesting moves and most of them have helped us.  Trading KB can arguably be the turning point in our season.

The question is? Does Hurney get replaced regardless of how this team finishes? 

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Short answer = no. Too quick of a time table for the new ownership to come in and get their feet wet. 

He's under contract through the offseason and will have a prove it year so to speak. Also provides new ownership an easy scapegoat if he sucks. Would be much easier to give him/Rivera one more year and if they fail in 18, clean house and start from scratch. 

I'd say he's got a 50/50 chance of surviving this with each playoff win working in his favor and if we get bounced in the first round that would decrease his chances.

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22 minutes ago, Malt Liquor said:

The new owner might bring Dave Gettleman back. Imagine the irony. And it's not like he doesn't know the organization. He got us out of cap hell and built a superbowl roster.

I have heard G'man's name being mentioned for the New York Giants job.  He came from that organization so I would assume he is probably the front runner for that job.

That said bringing him back wouldn't be too bad but he has to be a bit softer in his approach.

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Hurney's interim contract runs through June of next year. It'll probably take about that long to get the new ownership fully in place.

Assuming the NFL doesn't find something, Hurney will be on the job long enough to build next year's camp roster. After that, they'll probably pick their own guy to start work the following year.

FYI: Ron Rivera's contract expires after next season. Barring an extension, right about the time that the new ownership and new GM will be fully ready to go, Rivera will be out of contract..

Whether they decide to keep him or not probably depends a lot on how we finish this year and how the team looks next year.

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