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Hurney is "the worst GM in the NFL"


Jeremy Igo

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Just now, Toomers said:

How is a 14.7M cap hit if we cut him after this year categorized as “very little pain”. The TRUTH is we really haven’t begun paying for Kalil yet. His cap hit was only 3.4M this year. And 6.9M in 2018. In 2019, it’s either pay him 12.9M or cut him and eat 14.7M. The pain hasn’t even started. 

Jesus.

 

The cap hit, if cut after 18 is $7.2M, which if designated as a June 1, will be split over the following two seasons.

We have paid Kalil the majority of what we are going to pay him, and will only count $9.6 against the cap in 18.

 

Again, not enough posters on this board pay attention to the cap.

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4 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Saints are winning.

they are now. brees is in a contract year.

here's their records the 5 years previous:

  • 2016: 7-9
  • 2015: 7-9
  • 2014: 7-9
  • 2013: 11-5
  • 2012: 7-9

what's going to happen with brees in the offseason? you think he was going to be the consummate pro he touted himself to be during the lockout or the "me0first" he showed himself to be the last time his contract was up where he said he would hold out until he became the highest paid QB in the league, even though it undoubtedly hurt the team?

what they've got now isn't sustainable.

if they keep brees (who still says he wants to be the top paid guy in the league and this year is making a statement for that) then they will end up making it nearly impossible to keep key playmakers or bring in any new ones. if they let him go, there's no way that they are going to keep being the high powered offense they've been able to be since he's been in the toilet bowl of the Mississippi.

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We were right up against the cap on an annual basis long before that.

Lol going into the lockout we had like 65 million in cap space.

besides, lots of teams are against the cap.  And still find ways to restructure and win.  Look at NO.

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2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Lol going into the lockout we had like 65 million in cap space.

besides, lots of teams are against the cap.  And still find ways to restructure and win.  Look at NO.

Because we cut half the team.

Every year prior to that we were constantly having to cut one guy, restructure another, etc.

Heck, some years we didn't even sign more than one or two free agents because there wasn't any room.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Saying that he was a Richardson puppet doesn't really make him any better though.

To be a Yes Man, you have to be willing to be a Yes Man.

When it comes to working for employers, we are all yes-men to different extents. I'm not going to fault him solely for that.  Sometimes one has to grow to be able to democratically maneuver the nuances of the work environment in order to influence the boss (or keep your job).  Perhaps Hurney learned something from the experience. 

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2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

When it comes to working for employers, we are all yes-men to different extents. I'm not going to fault him solely for that.  Sometimes one has to grow to be able to democratically maneuver the nuances of the work environment in order to influence the boss (or keep your job).  Perhaps Hurney learned something from the experience. 

Unless he also.learned how to scout equivalent does someone with 25 years of experience in it, I'm not expecting much.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because we cut half the team.

Every year prior to that we were constantly having to cut one guy, restructure another, etc.

Heck, some years we didn't even sign more than one or two free agents because there wasn't any room.

You mean, like this coming up year?  You know, the year Gman gave us?

we have 26 million.  Signing Norwell and Star leaves you with maybe 2 million.  Tough decisions ahead.

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12 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Jesus.

 

The cap hit, if cut after 18 is $7.2M, which if designated as a June 1, will be split over the following two seasons.

We have paid Kalil the majority of what we are going to pay him, and will only count $9.6 against the cap in 18.

 

Again, not enough posters on this board pay attention to the cap.

  While you’re proclaiming your expert status, and no one else understands it, please tell me how you’re getting out of paying that 10M option bonus off that is due in March. Some folks need to read a little closer to Sportrac and realize there numbers can’t be correct on Kalils contract. Go to OTC and get the REAL sobering numbers. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Unless he also.learned how to scout equivalent does someone with 25 years of experience in it, I'm not expecting much.

You keep saying this type of thing,  and I'm not going to get in some long-winded debate because we know where we stand,  but suffice it to say that though Hurney made some awful blunders with scouting,  so do they all.  Fortunately,  or unfortunately depending upon how look at it, building a championship team is more than simply about scouting. Plus,  a good manager knows how and when to defer to his experts.  That is most definitely something that can be learned and/or reflected upon after being canned.

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