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Drama in Steeler country?

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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28 minutes ago, Malt Liquor said:

Ok I always wanted Mike Mitchell to come back to Carolina. I also wouldn't mind getting  Martavis Bryant.

Buffalo's 3rd for Bryant. Essentially turns it into a three way trade between Pittsburgh, Carolina and Buffalo. We get Bryant, Pittsburgh gets a 3rd and Buffalo gets KB. If we had done it at the deadline, we might still be playing.

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5 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

If Gruden won with Dungys team the same is true for Tomlin winning with Cowhers team...was the same damn team....and his teams have been dropping off in overall talent...when Ben retires is over they have a bare cupboard with 2 great offensive players and that's it.

Also "but Brady plays in a bad division"

So does Tomlin...hell the Panthers + Rivera and including Shula would win 10 games a season at least in that division...Browns and Cincy.....shiiit.

 

"oh i remind me how many super bowl teams he has coached" - Not as many as Stallworth 

I was never the world's biggest fan of Cowher, honestly.

The Steelers have arguably the best personnel machine in the NFL.  That helps their head coaches out a lot.

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7 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

If Gruden won with Dungys team the same is true for Tomlin winning with Cowhers team...was the same damn team....and his teams have been dropping off in overall talent...when Ben retires is over they have a bare cupboard with 2 great offensive players and that's it.

Also "but Brady plays in a bad division"

So does Tomlin...hell the Panthers + Rivera and including Shula would win 10 games a season at least in that division...Browns and Cincy.....shiiit.

 

"oh i remind me how many super bowl teams he has coached" - Not as many as Stallworth 

yes, China's tea is much greener than Monsanto's Lipton. Thanks for the knowledge drop.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I was never the world's biggest fan of Cowher, honestly.

The Steelers have arguably the best personnel machine in the NFL.  That helps their head coaches out a lot.

Neither Tomlin nor Cowher are great.

The Steelers have the FO/Ownership/personnel connections to put almost anyone out there in that division and do well. 

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6 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Neither Tomlin nor Cowher are great.

The Steelers have the FO/Ownership/personnel connections to put almost anyone out there in that division and do well. 

Cowher has a QB issue for most of his tenure as the Steelers HC, they get Big Ben and he finally wins a super bowl. That’s not a coincidence.

with that said Cowher is my favorite HC of the last 20 years in the NFL. Dude really could have won many more SB’s if he just stuck it out.

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59 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Firing Tomlin seems insane to me especially now that so many teams have a head start on you in the hiring process. He's far from perfect but he's definitely better than most and you could do much, much worse.

They probably have there eyes on someone in the organization. 

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2 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

Cowher has a QB issue for most of his tenure as the Steelers HC, they get Big Ben and he finally wins a super bowl. That’s not a coincidence.

with that said Cowher is my favorite HC of the last 20 years in the NFL. Dude really could have won many more SB’s if he just stuck it out.

I think Cowher is one of those guys that people remember as being better than he actually was because he was charismatic and entertaining. 

Not that he isn't a good coach.  He  clearly was. I just don't think he's quite as good as people remember.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think Cowher is one of those guys that people remember as being better than he actually was because he was charismatic and entertaining. 

Not that he isn't a good coach.  He  clearly was. I just don't think he's quite as good as people remember.

I thought he was awesome at the time and was sad that he retired. But hey that’s just me.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think Cowher is one of those guys that people remember as being better than he actually was because he was charismatic and entertaining. 

Not that he isn't a good coach.  He  clearly was. I just don't think he's quite as good as people remember.

Until he finally won that SB, Cowher was Andy Reid when he was with the Eagles. Any other team would've fired him around the turn of the millennium.

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