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REPORT: Giants will go hard after Andrew Norwell


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1 minute ago, grimesgoat said:

That's one way to look at it.  Another is that he got us so many good players we can't afford to keep them all.

"Cap hell" is when you're 14 million over the cap before you even get started. This is nothing close to that.

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2 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

TIL that you can't credit UDFAs/draft picks to a GM because a scout did his job and found a prospect.  i'm actually going to take it a step further and say you can't credit the scout because he wouldn't have even known about the prospect if it wasn't for the camera operator inside the stadium generating all-22 film.  and there wouldn't be a stadium to record game tape in if it wasn't for the construction firm that built the stadium.  and the stadium itself wouldn't exist if it wasn't for billions of years of tectonic, geothermal, and atmospheric activity that produced the construction materials and breathable air.  and the earth wouldn't exist if cam newton hadn't created it in 7 days.  and hurney drafted cam so hurney is responsible for norwell.  checkmate liberals.

 

outside of the jerk store where cpantherking lives a UDFA gem like norwell would be one of the highlights of any GM's career

So, an UDFA Norwell > Star or KB or Shaq or Butler

An UDFA > all 1st round picks under a certain GM

UDFA > 1st round pick

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UDFA Norwell < Kuechly or Cam or Stewart or TD or Peppers

 

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If it does not alarm you that one GM is able to put 5 first round picks in the NFL from 2002, 2005, 2008, 2011 and 2012 that are carrying the Panthers as team leaders while another GM is just hoping he can have a single 1st round pick make it past his rookie contract, then you have no clue what talent is, or what it takes in the draft to build a champion.

Yes, Norwell is a good player and will have a career in the NFL like many other Panthers linemen that have gone on to have success after the Panthers. He should not be better than all the first round picks made by the GM.

Will Gettleman even have any of those 4 1st round picks he made make it past 10 seasons in the NFL?

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19 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

That's one way to look at it.  Another is that he got us so many good players we can't afford to keep them all.

The other way to look at it is that none of the players Gettleman brought the Panthers are good enough to supplant the core of players that were here before Gettleman arrived.

Someone has to get paid to carry the team, and it does not seem to be Norwell. Gettleman thought Matt Kalil and Michael Oher were more valuable while not going after an OT in the draft to start for the Panthers.

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58 minutes ago, Snake said:

There is no maybe. 90% chance Norwell gets a deal. 10% chance we tag him. Anything else is just absurd. 

“Maybe or maybe not” was in reference to tagging him or long term deal, not if we would keep him.

Even though you could make an argument that he might be easier to replace in the draft then finding a quality wr starter in the draft.  

Would you prefer Allen Robinson or  Norwell?

Either way I don’t understand why people think we can’t afford Norwell and a decent FA signing.

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Well, we paid Turner and KK and drafted Moton and Butler.  I am not the most knowledgeable on NFL salary cap stuff and whatnot but from my understand the, assuming we think the latter two can do the job, then the best unemotional move is to let both Norwell and Star walk, get two comp picks, wait to see who is cut, and use the savings to sign players of .

I would miss both, but that is the nature of salary cap football.

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9 minutes ago, Goondal said:

Well, we paid Turner and KK and drafted Moton and Butler.  I am not the most knowledgeable on NFL salary cap stuff and whatnot but from my understand the, assuming we think the latter two can do the job, then the best unemotional move is to let both Norwell and Star walk, get two comp picks, wait to see who is cut, and use the savings to sign players of .

I would miss both, but that is the nature of salary cap football.

You know more than 95% of the folks on here based on your comment.

When we paid Turner and KK, that pretty much eliminated our chance to sign the other two guys.  We can't pay everyone - that is what the cap is all about.  Other teams deal with this as well.  It's not us being cheap - we are almost always very close to our limit - its about priorities.

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24 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

The other way to look at it is that none of the players Gettleman brought the Panthers are good enough to supplant the core of players that were here before Gettleman arrived.

Someone has to get paid to carry the team, and it does not seem to be Norwell. Gettleman thought Matt Kalil and Michael Oher were more valuable while not going after an OT in the draft to start for the Panthers.

Do you actually believe the dumb poo you post? I have a hard time thinking someone can be so out of touch with reality

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