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Skins looking to trade Norman. Or flat out release him.

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A. Come on home, Norman

B. If he's doing well money wise and not wanting to chase a contract, I feel like we're the ONLY option that makes sense. Keep the reunion tour going, and get a ring in so many Panther greats last year, or back nine's of their career.

C. The contract...I pitch him at around 7-8 million.  May seem low, but it's in Joe Haden, Chris Harris Jr. territory for name CBs who are around 30. Slight hometown discount (1-2 million)/Hurney not Gettleman doing the deal.

  • Combining a lot of thoughts/threads here...but take the 14 million some want to give Norwell and we net...
    • A 3rd round comp pick (hopefully), Josh Norman at 7-8 million a year, and a 2nd tier FA WR (Richardson, Moncrief) at 6-7 million a year.  I know what option I'm taking. 
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1 minute ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

A. Come on home, Norman

B. If he's doing well money wise and not wanting to chase a contract, I feel like we're the ONLY option that makes sense. Keep the reunion tour going, and get a ring in so many Panther greats last year, or back nine's of their career.

C. The contract...I pitch him at around 7-8 million.  May seem low, but it's in Joe Haden, Chris Harris Jr. territory for name CBs who are around 30. 

  • Combining a lot of thoughts/threads here...but take the 14 million some want to give Norwell and we net...
    • A 3rd round comp pick (hopefully), Josh Norman at 7-8 million a year, and a 2nd tier FA WR (Richardson, Moncrief) at 6-7 million a year.  I know what option I'm taking. 

I'm on board with this. Cut CJ and Shepard to clear another $5.5M or so to sign some more roster filler type FAs. Heavily consider releasing Ryan Kalil to potentially throw some money at an NFL caliber safety or at the very least sit him down and try to get him to take a pay cut. Our offense from a statistical production standpoint didn't seem to miss a beat without him last year but I definitely understand the trepidation of losing him while also having to replace our LG.

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2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

People still falling on the sword for dg for Norman debacle.....yeesh 

It's ridiculous. I like DG. I think he did a lot more good than bad, but no one is perfect and that he completely fuged the pooch on that Norman situation. Take the absolute worst case scenario on how you could've played your cards on that one both from a roster building perspective and a lockerroom perspective and that's it. The way he handled that situation was the absolute worst case scenario. I honestly don't think our lockerroom ever recovered from that kick in the nuts and that in and of itself played a big role in us falling flat on our faces that season.

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@LinvilleGorge Agreed.  

Understand if Kalil doesn't want to take a paycut, but at the same time...let's also discuss what the organization did in making your brother a very rich man and paying you for some injury plagued years.  Instead of 10 million, Kalil comes back at 7 saving a few million, to add to CJ, Shepard, and JStew cuts (I still don't think they'll cut Stew honestly though).

There's another 10 million to play with and grab a couple of guys or work on re-signing more of our own. 

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If Hurney brings Norman back, I will most definitely be toning down my Hurney criticism....

 

That is until he fugs the draft up, keeps a second kicker instead of a position player, cuts the wrong kicker, franchises a kicker, signs some favorite player of his to an insane contract that weighs down the team for year to come etc etc

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27 minutes ago, TPanther920 said:

No...Norman's dumbass agent got in the ring with a no BS,  I don't play no silly ass negotiating games heavyweight....and lost. It was Norman's agent and Norman that blundered. If Norman was so frigg'n good, what the hell happened in Washington. Our front 7 enabled Norman to play out of control and risky. He is on the wrong side of 30. Unless Norman is real cheap Hurney needs to let him walk on by.

I believe Norman's agent was his uncle or cousin.  Some sort of relative.   You're right though he screwed it up big time.  He wanted the big bucks and had no intention of negotiating.   He also prevented Norman from signing the offer.   Had he signed we would have been much better off.

He got his payday because we knew someone was going to fork over that big money.   Now it is reality time.  Josh will want to come home.   Not only being from the Carolina's but also his best days were with the Panthers.

A modest salary would change many things for us.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm on board with this. Cut CJ and Shepard to clear another $5.5M or so to sign some more roster filler type FAs. Heavily consider releasing Ryan Kalil to potentially throw some money at an NFL caliber safety...

That is sounding real nice.

Alright, @RumHam, how about this scenario:

Bradberry, Lemarcus Joyner, Ronnie Harrison, Norman ?

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Rams aren't letting Joyner go. He gets re-signed or tagged. I don't think we could afford him even if he did hit the market.

Hey man, don't rain on my offseason. Can't a guy just pretend for a little that we won't go into next year with Coleman back there?

Edit: who would you consider to be better an upgrade at safety but reasonably priced?

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