You don't FUGGIN cut Ryan FUGGIN Kalil

[trucpfan]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm still waiting for anyone to point out any offensive statistic that points to our offense being significantly better with Ryan Kalil last year vs. without him. Obviously stats don't tell the whole story, but anytime you're trying to justify a nearly $10M cap hit for an aging, injury prone player you'd hope to at least be able to point to something statistically that shows we're significantly better with him vs. without him.

I'll have to second that Hurney makes decisions like if we cut Ryan Matt may not perform well please stop the madness. We need Cap flexibility and his often injured azz has the money we need. Where are the facts stating his play improves us dramatically from Larsens production. 

[Moo Daeng]

Amini has to be signed before you can worry about him playing.

[Cyberjag]

The coaching staff knows every snap he played, what blocks he called out, what the defense actually did, and why the play succeeded or failed.  They also know the same for Larson.

They will react accordingly, and regardless of the decision the Huddle will be critical of it.

[Smithers]

Nah...we just wait on him to sleep wrong and proceed to miss 10 games next season while collecting that massive paycheck.

[NanceUSMC]

It's a GREAT draft to need a guard or center...  We would be smart to come away with 2 (early) picks that are interchangeable at both positions...  One to start at G this year (Price?), and another to step into the OL rotation next year after Kalil retires...

Let Kalil retire, THEN cut Matt and look to draft or sign your starting LT next offseason (or hope that Williams or Moton improve enough to slide into that role)...

Cutting Kalil doesn't make you better, and at this point ejecting his salary isn't going to be enough to make a significant splash with...  Trust in your player, trust in your coaches and trust in your GM (if you can), and expect we get his replacement on the roster this draft...

[Smithers]

26 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Were you all paying attention last year? Anytime Ryan Kalil did not play it was like the Panthers didn't even have a left tackle in the game. Kalil is what made Matt Kalil look almost capable. Cut Ryan Kalil and you better be ready to cut Matt Kalil too because without his brother he is a huge liability. 

But that was the problem...”anytime” was most of the time.  

[LinvilleGorge]

Here's the stats. Kalil vs. Larsen...

Passing yards per game: 167 with Kalil, 206 with Larsen

Rushing yards per game: 128 with Kalil, 131 with Larsen

Total offensive yards per game:  303 with Kalil, 336 with Larsen

Points per game: 20ppg with Kalil, 24.3ppg with Larsen

1st downs per game: 20 with Kalil, 20 with Larsen

Sacks per game: 2 with Kalil, 2.3 with Larsen (though it's worth noting that the two worst sack games with Larsen were his 1st two starts and we averaged 1.6 per game in his final 8 starts)

Win/Loss record: 4-2 with Kalil, 7-3 with Larsen

 

Not only are we not significantly better with Kalil, we're actually significantly WORSE.

 

[trucpfan]

3 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Thank God the team doesn't agree with you.

What you're lost if you think ten mill for a player tho could wake up with that neck and miss ten games but it's ok his brother feels good when he plays he brings us stability even tho we can't count you to be available fourth highest cap hit for centers while Larsen is making 630k. It happens back loaded contracts are designed for teams to get out of high hits late in the players contract the Not For Long league for a reason pay cut is the only option.

[Car123]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the stats. Kalil vs. Larsen...

Passing yards per game: 167 with Kalil, 206 with Larsen

Rushing yards per game: 128 with Kalil, 131 with Larsen

Total offensive yards per game:  303 with Kalil, 336 with Larsen

Points per game: 20ppg with Kalil, 24.3ppg with Larsen

1st downs per game: 20 with Kalil, 20 with Larsen

Sacks per game: 2 with Kalil, 2.3 with Larsen (though it's worth noting that the two worst sack games with Larsen were his 1st two starts and we averaged 1.6 per game in his final 8 starts)

Win/Loss record: 4-2 with Kalil, 7-3 with Larsen

 

Not only are we not significantly better with Kalil, we're actually significantly WORSE.

 

Kalil barely played in some of those 6 games and you didn’t include the playoff game.

[trucpfan]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the stats. Kalil vs. Larsen...

Passing yards per game: 167 with Kalil, 206 with Larsen

Rushing yards per game: 128 with Kalil, 131 with Larsen

Total offensive yards per game:  303 with Kalil, 336 with Larsen

Points per game: 20ppg with Kalil, 24.3ppg with Larsen

1st downs per game: 20 with Kalil, 20 with Larsen

Win/Loss record: 4-2 with Kalil, 7-3 with Larsen

 

Not only are we not significantly better with Kalil, we're actually significantly WORSE.

 

Put those facts away this isn't that type of discussion lmao.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Car123 said:

Kalil barely played.

I think you could just leave it at that and that's a big part of the reason why he's not worth his cap hit.

[Peppers90 NC]

how else were we gonna land the WATKINSSSSSS?????

[Jon Snow]

What you mean Igo is that "You don't FUGGIN cut FAMILY" no matter what it costs the team.

[Palmetto]

If you dont have a proper replacement then i guess you have no choice to not release him. Thats why teams need to draft well have guys replacements in place the Panthers have not done that