Panthers snaps by youth versus the rest of the NFL

[Bartin]

Came across this from overthecap.com where they have assigned a valuation to the number of snaps played by drafted players in the first four years of their rookie contracts in a sortable table for every year since 2011 which is coincidentally the first year Ron became coach. It's also when the new CBA began which is why the site chose that year as a start point. So I thought it would be interesting to note where Ron and the staff have ranked at playing youth versus veterans against the rest of the NFL given how often it is said that Ron never plays young guys and always prefers vets.

I should note that this is not solely a metric that shows preference to vets vs youth as it also will factor in how well teams hit on players in the draft.

https://overthecap.com/rookie-class-evaluation/

Here is where the Panthers rank in the NFL for most snaps by players on a rookie contract since 2011:

2011 - 13th

2012 - 10th

2013 - 20th

2014 - 5th

2015 - 23rd

2016 - 27th

2017 - 24th

2018 - 15th

Overall - 19th

So we are pretty squarely in the middle of the pack in the NFL. There also doesn't appear to be a ton of correlation between rank and team success. The better teams over this time period are more favored toward the bottom half but there are plenty of successful teams in the top half.

[Ricky Spanish]

Neat

[iamhubby1]

    So...do we like rookies now? Or do we still hate them? Or is it, some rookies yea, and some rookies nah? Inquiring minds and all that.

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

    So...do we like rookies now? Or do we still hate them? Or is it, some rookies yea, and some rookies nah? Inquiring minds and all that.

It appears the less rookies we start the better our record is according to those rankings. Still skewed, because if you have a stud for a rookie - this means nothing.

[iamhubby1]

4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

It appears the less rookies we start the better our record is according to those rankings. Still skewed, because if you have a stud for a rookie - this means nothing.

 

    I don't think that is what it means at all. All that shows is the amount of playing time. Not where the team ended up.

 

    This is the qualifier in the OP. "There also doesn't appear to be a ton of correlation between rank and team success. The better teams over this time period are more favored toward the bottom half but there are plenty of successful teams in the top half."

 

    We are in the middle of the pack where it comes to playing rookies. So I guess it means we don't hate em. We just aren't in love with them.

[MHS831]

That is a good find.  Pie to you.

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    I don't think that is what it means at all. All that shows is the amount of playing time. Not where the team ended up.

 

    This is the qualifier in the OP. "There also doesn't appear to be a ton of correlation between rank and team success. The better teams over this time period are more favored toward the bottom half but there are plenty of successful teams in the top half."

 

    We are in the middle of the pack where it comes to playing rookies. So I guess it means we don't hate em. We just aren't in love with them.

Compare the season's record based on our rookie play time ranking..... That's how I got the answer I got.

[iamhubby1]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Compare the season's record based on our rookie play time ranking..... That's how I got the answer I got.

 

    Well, damm. That could work...ish

 

    

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Well, damm. That could work...ish

 

    

still skewed, but an impartial baseline.

[Khyber53]

I think it means we aren't desperate enough to send a rookie onto the field before we think they are ready, but that we do get them out there and put them into play eventually. A bit conservative, but not stodgy.

[KB_fan]

Nice data. I'd done some tables on rookie starts awhile back. But this is much more comprehensive.

[billionairemonk]

does it differentiate between injuries forcing the coach's hand vs spotting the talent in camp and starting them right away?

[run-run-pass-punt]

7 hours ago, Bartin said:

 There also doesn't appear to be a ton of correlation between rank and team success. The better teams over this time period are more favored toward the bottom half but there are plenty of successful teams in the top half.

So in other words, find and put good players on the field, whether green or seasoned.

[tiger7_88]

Whatcha wanna bet the vast majority of those rookie snaps came from rookie defenders?