Newton's longevity

[MHS831]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm curious as to how many people are concerned about it at this point given the injuries and such.

Have your estimates of how many years he has left changed?

I wanted to respond before reading the other posts--here is what I THINK I understand about Cam--

1. Cam needs his legs--the run threat--to succeed.  It freezes one defensive player.  

2.  Cam has been hit more than any other QB in history (my guess).

3.  He has lost the deep ball we had with Ginn and perfected the swing pass to CMC.  Is this due to a physical problem with his shoulder?

4.  I still see issues with timing and reading the defense.  Can he ever become a pure pocket passer with the inability to anticipate and passing accuracy? 

In short, Cam will probably not be like Rivers, Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Big Ben, etc. because he lacks the accuracy and maybe the football acumen to develop into a pocket passer.  This bothers me because I do not see him earning his third contract.  I pray I am wrong, but Cam is in his prime right now.  Will he be worth $150m at age 31?  I would hate to be the GM.

[Paa Langfart]

I give Cam about 4 more years.  I don't know if his body will give out before his attitude will,  but I think 4 years .  I would imagine that he  would like to do something else with his life besides getting the hell beat out of him every  Sunday in the fall and jeopardizing his long term health any more.  If the experts at our helm don't think Heinicke has what it takes, it is time to find and start grooming a replacement for Newton.

[Dunn]

I just can't bring myself to think he couldn't possibly outlast Brady or Brees or Manning in the sense of pure health and conditioning, his athletic ability is light years above them if his arm can stand the test of time, I can see him playing at least 8 more years. 

[MHS831]

32 minutes ago, RumHam said:

We. Need. To. Start. Looking. If Grier is available, we need to take him.

I think Charlotte has 2 QBs who are going to be high draft picks...

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

A kid comes out of Charlotte and he is the next coming, it’s really kinda cute but I want no part of him as a franchise QB.

I don't care if he's from Istanbul. I've seen how well he plays. He'd be a great QB of the future.

[Paa Langfart]

Just now, Shocker said:

A kid comes out of Charlotte and he is the next coming, it’s really kinda cute but I want no part of him as a franchise QB.

I don't think you know wtf you are talking about.  Either that or you're just another troll.

[Raleigh PF]

The question no one is asking is, how long does Cam want to play football? How does his mental desire match up with his physical capability?

I have him going about 6 more years IF he is healthy; 3 more years if he isn't. I say three years, as he will try to make a comeback a couple of times, but will never be fully healthy.

[thefuzz]

Eh...really not concerned about it.

I have always guessed that Cam would be a 12-15 year QB, not a 15-18 year one.

He makes/has made plenty of money.  He has a life outside of football, and he likely will start breaking down a little quicker than the other "big" QB's out there.

I'm not looking at life after Cam, I'm hoping for a better life with Cam.  I do not think that Marty and Ron are able to supply that.

[ChibCU]

Just now, Dunn said:

I just can't bring myself to think he couldn't possibly outlast Brady or Brees or Manning in the sense of pure health and conditioning, his athletic ability is light years above them if his arm can stand the test of time, I can see him playing at least 8 more years. 

They do/did have different skill sets than Newton. The athletic ability decays faster than pocket-passing ability.

Brees has been healthy for over a decade after his shoulder repair... but his did not linger and was fixed with initial surgery.

[MHS831]

25 minutes ago, trueblade said:

They haven't changed. I've always felt he'd probably last until 33 or 34. So 4 to 5 more years*.

*all predictions wrong, or your money back!

I do not understand how anyone expects Cam-with his strengths and weaknesses--to continue to endure the beating he has taken for another decade...Understand that many of his hits are based on his reading skills---indecision at times. He often misses the open WR and throws into traffic; he often holds the ball too long.  He is a tremendous athlete and becoming a good leader, but can his body take the beating?    I  say Cam at 33 will not be nearly as good as Cam at 29 for these reasons.  If you start thinking of QB salaries, you have to really consider the value of his third contract.  We shall see. 

 

[Shocker]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't care if he's from Istanbul. I've seen how well he plays. He'd be a great QB of the future.

If this team picks Will Grier it will be a wasted pick.  If he is in the top 10 QBs picked it will be surprising.  Seriously 

[top dawg]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A lot of folks scream like banshees at the notion that Tepper would even consider moving on from Newton.

I surmise that you're not one of them.

Nope, I'm not. Like many jobs, the NFL is results-driven. In my mind, Cam is as responsible for this skid as anyone. I don't think Tepper is going to put up with losing. I also don't think that he has the loyalty to Cam that many fans do. He may have had some general notions about Cam based on highlights and media reports before he got here (strictly as a QB, mind you), but now he has a front row seat. We don't know how he's going to analyze this specific situation (the skid), but we do know that it hasn't been Cam's best look. Indeed, we know that Tepper knows and consults a number of football people, and regardless of what some Huddlers may think, many football people don't believe that Cam is as great as some claim on this site. And the bad thing is that the main thing that critics point to as why Cam will never be anything but an inconsistently good QB who has spurts of greatness, has been on full display---on "blast," if you will---during this skid. 

So, yeah, I think Tepper is looking at it all. People may be looking for a shoe to drop, and maybe the other one, but there may be three shoes dropping by next season if Cam can't get his act together regarding his mechanics and decision making.

[thefuzz]

As to the team picking a QB...I think that if the talent is there, that it's perfectly fine to pick a QB almost every year in the draft.  You never know what you may get, and you are at the end of the day, 1 possible terrible play away from an Alex Smith injury.

I DO NOT condone a pick in the top 3 rounds this year though...we have much bigger holes.

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[Silent Majority]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm curious as to how many people are concerned about it at this point given the injuries and such.

Have your estimates of how many years he has left changed?

Directly tied into actually having a functional Oline for once. the inability to keep him upright i.e Rodgers, Brady, Brees, that the mouth breathers lust to compare him to, will shorten that time significantly.