Your call...being competitive in 2019

[RumHam]

4 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Sure Allen's performance was against a team that was resting starters and had nothing to gain but the fact he looked so good was actually not great for Cam. It suggested that we might not need Superman to run this quarterback friendly offense and could be productive with someone else. Prior to this Cam had to carry the offense but with increased offensive talent and fixing the O line, other guys could be successful in this system. Even a potential rookie.

Just saying.....

Oh if we go into next year with Allen and Heineken as starters, FFS we're getting that #1 pick to take the guy from Oregon then. 

[Pimpdaddy]

30 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Oh if we go into next year with Allen and Heineken as starters, FFS we're getting that #1 pick to take the guy from Oregon then. 

...it will be on if we draft a qb rd1 or 2...

[Pimpdaddy]

5 hours ago, Toomers said:

  We aren’t going to be competitive next year anyhow. With or without Cam. Might as well tank, All the pieces are in place to do it. Just sit back and let it happen. 

yea...loser mentality.

[Toomers]

17 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

yea...loser mentality.

  Or not believing some people will magically get better at their jobs just because.......

  

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, SJTG4 said:

oh no I don't care if Cam leaves lmfao but you think they are thinking about cutting him? Like you think he's gonna get cut this offseason

If we decide we have to move on then I would try and trade him first. If no one was interested I would try and restructure his 23 million cap hit and hope he recovers for 2020. I would think releasing him would be the last option especially if I thought he could play down the road 

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...it will be on if we draft a qb rd1 or 2...

That is actually the thing we should do. Rookie contracts are cheap and if Cam recovers we don't have to start the rookie. Let him sit and learn. If he excels we can make him the eventually starter if we move on from Cam or trade him down the road. It is much cheaper to bring in a QB on a rookie deal and develop him as your back up versus bringing in a guy like Bridgewater or Fitzgerald who will want 15 -20 mil to sit the bench.

[pantherclaw]

If we can get average qb play, we'll have a winning season. 

[PantherNation123]

8 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I imagine that it has been discussed although I doubt it is the first choice. The choice of words suggesting we need cap space at least indicates cuts will  be made. Would it cause an uproar if we signed Foles as his replacement? Mere speculation at this point 

No way in hell this "has been discussed".  We may have bad decision-making often by our front office, but they aren't that clueless.

[Jeremy Igo]

Incorporate a running game that has nothing to do with Cam Newton. Take Armah and CMC and start using the I formation. Mive the chains, run the clock, make the games slow and boring.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Incorporate a running game that has nothing to do with Cam Newton. Take Armah and CMC and start using the I formation. Mive the chains, run the clock, make the games slow and boring.

Ron? 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Toomers said:

  Or not believing some people will magically get better at their jobs just because.......

Analytics.

[panthers55]

36 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

No way in hell this "has been discussed".  We may have bad decision-making often by our front office, but they aren't that clueless.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.....

[PantherNation123]

3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.....

You're beyond clueless if you think we've discussed cutting Cam.   But I guess keep telling yourself we have discussed cutting him if that makes you feel better......

[lightsout]

I don't think we should cut Cam.

I don't think anybody in the organization has seriously considered it. 

I think, at most, there have been talks of not re-signing him at the end of his current deal or POSSIBLY reworking his current deal to put him in a role that isn't QB IF his shoulder never returns.


By no means do I want us to lose Cam. However, you're foolish to disregard the fact that his shoulder may never recover considering the STEEP drop off in his throwing ability after the Steelers game. He needs to get 100% better and if his shoulder can't return, we have a big problem on our hands with cap space, the need for a reliable downfield passing game and no real long-term solution currently on the roster that anybody should be comfortable with. 

I'm reserving panic for August. We'll know for sure by then where Cam's shoulder is and what direction we need to take. Everything right now is speculation.