Ron ranked in top 10 of NFL head coaches

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll never forget how Wade Phillips beat Mike Shula like a redheaded stepchild in that game and then Broncos' players expressed shocked disbelief after the game about how we switched up literally nothing on offense for that game. They had us dialed from jump street because we made it very easy for them to do it. I don't even blame Remmers for his atrocious play. Beasley had shown us in Week 16 that Remmers absolutely could not handle a legit speed rusher one on one. We should've been helping him out and/or rolling the pocket all game long.

Rivera to me is like a really good high school coach.

You see a guy coaching a high school for a long time and winning a bunch of games. Someone thinks "hey maybe he could be a good college coach". So he gets a college job, goes up against smarter coaches and gets his ass kicked.

Ron is a good coach, but he's limited. You might get some good regular seasons out of him, but he's not that "next level" guy that can win championships.

And yes, he needs a strong GM. Honestly, when paired with Marty Hurney, you'll probably be lucky just to get the good regular seasons.

The "okay is not okay" commercials you see on TV right now pretty much sum up what you've got with Rivera. As long as he's here with Marty, I expect us to tread water and not do much more.

Replace Marty and maybe you've got a chance to do better, but Rivera will still be Rivera.

[Zaximus]

3 hours ago, MountaineerChemist10 said:

I'm totally cool with #10. Yes, he's as inconsistent as  but he's the first Carolina coach to achieve division championships 3 years in a row & reach 15-1 record. Oh, & we made it to SB 50. Wowza.

If it wasn't for Cam's shoulder last year, there's no doubt we would've made it to the playoffs. So that's pretty much why he gets a pass for '18.

However if we don't make the playoffs this year, he's gone for good. 

0 back to back seasons with winning record though.    You aren't a great coach if you can't do that. 

[Basbear]

The NFL does have some awful coaches, I got him in the 12-16 range, but I don't follow the league like I once did. 

No playoffs this year and Im ready to move on. 

[GRWatcher]

3 hours ago, rhyslloyd said:

He still has not had back-to-back winning seasons.  This whole "sustained" success thing does not apply to Rivera.  I'm sure other coaches love coaching against Ron because they know he's unable to adjust and is easily outsmarted and outcoached.  If Cam doesn't show up every week, we're screwed. Bottom line.

It's the same thing for 30 other head coaches. If the starting QB doesn't show up, the odds are they're not winning. Belichik, I believe, could coach his way out of a paper bag with his 3rd string if he had to lol.

[panthers55]

I have said all along that people outside of the huddle and Carolina have a much higher opinion of him than people here. Our own fans nitpick everything and blame him for any issues while idolizing Cam. Everyone else understands he has his flaws but is a good coach and recognize for example that our slide was due to Cam more than anything not Rivera. Of course Cam couldn't help he was hurt and gave it his all so no blame there. And Ron admitted his mistakes which is the first part to fixing them 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I have said all along that people outside of the huddle and Carolina have a much higher opinion of Mike Shula than people here. Our own fans nitpick everything and blame him for any issues while idolizing Cam. Everyone else understands he has his flaws but is a good offensive coordinator and recognize for example that our slide was due to Cam more than anything not Shula. Of course Cam couldn't help he was hurt and gave it his all so no blame there. And Shula admitted his mistakes which is the first part to fixing them 

Fixed, in keeping with your history.

[panthers55]

Cam was hurt in 2016 and 2018 which killed both seasons. Gettleman gave us slow starts other years which his wholesale changing of rosters which took time to develop. And Ron inherited a 2-15 team and improved their record each year for the first 3 years. 2014 was the only year where we really fell backwards for no obvious reason.

[CPF4LIFE]

7 hours ago, Waldo said:

Lol. Then someone trade for him. I would love to play against him twice a year.

LMAOOOOO....say that again.

[CPF4LIFE]

7 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I mean he did take a 15-1 team to the Super Bowl...

Or do we only give the team all the credit for the success and give RR all the credit for the failures?

Majority of those games the team came out on fire and was jumping out the big leads by halftime just to damn squander it in the second half all because Riveras conservative coaching and playing not to lose. We could have easily lost a few more games if it wasnt cam playing a MVP level. And in the biggest game of the season when adjustments were needed because we clearly couldnt overwhelm the opponent like we had been doing all season Rivers made none and we lost out on another chance at a championship.

Rivera barely deserves any credit. 

[Waldo]

16 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

LMAOOOOO....say that again.

He was promising early on but the man refuses to learn from his mistakes and just keeps doubling down. Can you imagine game planning against him? He literally never makes adjustments. 

[Khyber53]

I think he's a better coach than last year made him out to be. A coach can only cover for a QB with no long or medium game for so long, or for having a DC that can't get plays called or the right personnel on the field. He also couldn't turn back the clock on Ryan Kalil, unbreak Olsen's foot or unsuspend TD for the first four games. 

That was a bad year with injuries decimating the offense (that line was shuffled more than the one deck at a blackjack tournament) and we looked decent until the mid-point when the wheels finally fell off.

 

[panthers55]

47 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Fixed, in keeping with your history.

Nice trolling. Not taking the bait. LOL

[panthers55]

12 minutes ago, Waldo said:

He was promising early on but the man refuses to learn from his mistakes and just keeps doubling down. Can you imagine game planning against him? He literally never makes adjustments. 

Yeah let's ignore he adjusted his role to run the defense the last few games, admitted his mistakes and is already mixing things up with his staff changes. You literally never adjust your commentary regardless of the facts.

[panthers55]

23 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Majority of those games the team came out on fire and was jumping out the big leads by halftime just to damn squander it in the second half all because Riveras conservative coaching and playing not to lose. We could have easily lost a few more games if it wasnt cam playing a MVP level. And in the biggest game of the season when adjustments were needed because we clearly couldnt overwhelm the opponent like we had been doing all season Rivers made none and we lost out on another chance at a championship.

Rivera barely deserves any credit. 

I love this. Now Rivera gets blamed because of what might have happened but didn't. This borders on the ridiculous.