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Bill Barnwell on Matt Kalil roster status

TheSpecialJuan

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this is my take - if we do not plan on making any other moves than it is better to keep him. 

cuttin him (post june 1) saves us 7.25 mil, but cost us 9.8 next year. if we arent spending that 7.25 this year, pay him

if we cut him next year (post june 1) saves us 11 mil next year and only cost is 4.9 the following. 

 

if he is on the roster it doesn't mean he has to start. he is good DEPTH. need depth on the oline. yes i dont like paying someone that kind of money for depth, but keeping him this year is better for us next year, especially if we are done with big splashes in FA. he has no future on this team and we could still draft OL in the 1st round. 

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Just now, ericr0319 said:

this is my take - if we do not plan on making any other moves than it is better to keep him. 

cuttin him (post june 1) saves us 7.25 mil, but cost us 9.8 next year. if we arent spending that 7.25 this year, pay him

if we cut him next year (post june 1) saves us 11 mil next year and only cost is 4.9 the following. 

 

if he is on the roster it doesn't mean he has to start. he is good DEPTH. need depth on the oline. yes i dont like paying someone that kind of money for depth, but keeping him this year is better for us next year, especially if we are done with big splashes in FA. he has no future on this team and we could still draft OL in the 1st round. 

With Daryl William's knee being a question mark we might wanna hang onto Matt.

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Just now, Proudiddy said:

I'd rather have Chris Clark or Newhouse be the backup before Kalil steps on the field again.

If we weren't on the hook for Kalil's contract then I agree.

But it honestly makes more sense to keep him financially this season as a backup rather than cut him. 

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1 minute ago, Cracka McNasty said:

If we weren't on the hook for Kalil's contract then I agree.

But it honestly makes more sense to keep him financially this season as a backup rather than cut him. 

How? You're still going to have to pay him an additional $7M. His dead cap is just that. There's no way to get to the it back. It'll hit us no matter what. That's a terrible excuse to throw good money after bad.

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