Panthers Currently At 6.73M Cap Space

[CanadianCat]

On 3/18/2019 at 3:59 PM, Mr. Scot said:

The Saints do a fair amount of kicking the can down the road.

We used to do that too, but you can only keep it up for so long. That's basically how we wound up 14 million over the cap back in 2013.

Good reminder. With all the hate we have given DG he sure did a lot in a bad situation. Back then we were calling him a genius the way he was signing the old vets to small money deals. 

[trueblade]

On 3/18/2019 at 4:59 PM, Mr. Scot said:

The Saints do a fair amount of kicking the can down the road.

SI Andrew Brandt, who was both an agent and then a front office guy for GB discussed this (not the Saints specifically but the strategy) during his column on the free agency period.

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The credit card mentality of signing bonus proration was a concept that smart teams used skillfully when implemented 25 years ago back when there was a team salary cap of $35 million. Now, smart teams are avoiding it as much as possible, in part to avoid being stuck in a position like the one the Steelers and Giants find themselves in after moving on from mega-contracts.

I strongly believe that a better way to structure NFL player contracts is to avoid signing bonus proration, using roster bonus and guaranteed salary to match cash and cap as closely as possible. Teams that do this are most flexible for the present and future and able to “get out” of their deals seamlessly. Matching cash and cap requires ample cap room, which demands quality scouting, good decisions on contracts and perhaps some disciplined spending for a period of time. But once a team is “ahead of the curve,” it never has to worry about the cap-killing decision to move on from a star player like Brown or Beckham. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/19/free-agency-contract-model-guarantees-salary-cap

 

[thunderraiden]

We can always restructure Shaq and sign one or two more decent FA's.

 

We could still use another LT, Slot, and FS before the draft to be safe.

[Harbingers]

43 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

We can always restructure Shaq and sign one or two more decent FA's.

 

We could still use another LT, Slot, and FS before the draft to be safe.

You give Hurney far too much credit. We have huge holes all over the roster and no money to fill it with.

[Sub Zero]

3 hours ago, Harbingers said:

You give Hurney far too much credit. We have huge holes all over the roster and no money to fill it with.

So you should just vacate next season and get a few hobbies other than watching a doomed football team and wasting your time posting opinions about them.. Right??

It just seem like you could get some good reading in spend quality time with the family catch up on some streaming shows you missed  or get some house work done you always wanted to do.. 

All this could happen instead of being a wet rag on a football forum... 

Think about it...

[Peppers90 NC]

3 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

So you should just vacate next season and get a few hobbies other than watching a doomed football team and wasting your time posting opinions about them.. Right??

It just seem like you could get some good reading in spend quality time with the family catch up on some streaming shows you missed  or get some house work done you always wanted to do.. 

All this could happen instead of being a wet rag on a football forum... 

Think about it...

It’s what some people live for man, don’t rain on their parade. There were a few posters that were back as soon as FA started making threads and whining and complaining we weren’t spending the bank like the Browns. Now we’ve signed a few players, they are radio silent.

[ForJimmy]

I can see us drafting late round development tackles for depth and possible an older vet or two that gets cut after the draft. If a solid WR falls to us in the 3rd we can cut Torrey Smith and have more money for depth...

[Harbingers]

8 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

So you should just vacate next season and get a few hobbies other than watching a doomed football team and wasting your time posting opinions about them.. Right??

It just seem like you could get some good reading in spend quality time with the family catch up on some streaming shows you missed  or get some house work done you always wanted to do.. 

All this could happen instead of being a wet rag on a football forum... 

Think about it...

Or I could say a fact and not give a second thought to what you think you know. 

[saints4lifeagain]

On 3/18/2019 at 4:05 PM, hepcat said:

Brees restructured his deal for 2019. His cap hit is something ridiculous like $42m next season

 

On 3/18/2019 at 5:08 PM, t96 said:

They just made it so Brees will count like $45M against the cap in 2020... all in for this year will result in an immediate need to rebuild.

No it won’t. $22 million next year. $5 million the next. Y’all gotta do better. 

[Harbingers]

33 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Use it or lose...we’ve signed a safety, 2 OL, and a DE...plus a few other fill ins

and I think we get another $7.5m from cutting Kalil to cover the draft...could also extend Shaq and get some more $$ if we need it

pretty good so far...not concerned about the cap at all

Shortsightedness and we still have serious major holes from not just this past season but the one before. I don’t understand why everyone here thinks Hurney is going to homerun and cast starters in every draft pick. Naivety. 

[t96]

1 hour ago, saints4lifeagain said:

 

No it won’t. $22 million next year. $5 million the next. Y’all gotta do better. 

That's if he's not on the team, add in his contract and it's up near $40M. Without him y'all are screwed anyways.

[Sub Zero]

14 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Or I could say a fact and not give a second thought to what you think you know. 

What fact is that again?? Because predicting future events isn't a fact based profession ... Sorry.. I guess being here wasting your time being debbie downer is more important than playing catch with your kids or teaching them to read.. 

[Sub Zero]

2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Shortsightedness and we still have serious major holes from not just this past season but the one before. I don’t understand why everyone here thinks Hurney is going to homerun and cast starters in every draft pick. Naivety. 

Who said he is getting 7 new starters in the draft??

Wait

How do you figure we need 7 new starters in the 1st place??

See this is the problem with trying to troll ppl optimism in the offseason.. You say dumb poo in your constant pursuit to be a wet rag.. Instead of just judging every move objectively and letting the plan playout.. We got it......you don't like Hurney nor do you care if we win this season.. You're secure in the "I told you so" post at the end of the season.. You will get your Tshirt and cookie saying I won the internet today.. OKay.. No need to Express the same soggy opinion over and over and over again...

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, bull123 said:

Use it or lose...we’ve signed a safety, 2 OL, and a DE...plus a few other fill ins

and I think we get another $7.5m from cutting Kalil to cover the draft...could also extend Shaq and get some more $$ if we need it

pretty good so far...not concerned about the cap at all

You have to keep something in reserve for transactions that happen during the season.

And restructures cannot be done without the agreement of the player. Therefore, there has to be something in it for them.

It's real easy to say "take away from next year's cap"... until it's next year. Do that several "next years" in a row and that's how you find yourself 14 million dollars over the cap.